RPAL to buy primers?

bear.23 said:
It's been requested by the CFO since when I was selling powder and primers..
They want it in the book...

You may call it BS.. I know better... If someone isn't following it maybe they have a way out.. Myabe they don't have a BFL Maybe they are selling powder under an NRCAN license.. I don't know.. But I know the CFO in Ontario wants a lot of things in the BOOK...
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Difference between a request and a requirement...Unless there was an underlying tone to it...
 
Wow... I knew there might be some controvery over this but 3 pages... I had a member contact me yesterday expressing his concern.

I am trying to find regulations on primer sales but have yet to turn up any.

When I did buy powder and primers at my local store they required you show your firearms license they would look at it give it back and your good to go.

I have adopted this policy as a personal company policy as well, I dont see what the big deal is if you have a license whats the big deal about showing it to prove your responsible and allowed to have the items your purchaseing... with all the bad press and stuff going on in the firearms indusrty I figure its a good way to protect myself... my original business plan was to not sell powder or primers and I have decided I would give it a try. I was trying to find a goverment document on the sale of primers and asked a few people to help me out, but we have yet to turn up any offical documents regarding the sale of primers.

All I am trying to do is protect myself, I was expecting people would respond as you did, which is ok your entitled to your opinion... I know some shops are a bit slopy or neglectful about regulations I have shoped at most of them in ontario and everyone is a bit different...

I know its not law or required but ask yourself why would you need small pistol primers?
If you go by 9mm ammo do they not require you show your RPAL?
Do you think young children should be able to buy powder and primers?
How do I know the person on the other side of the key board is 5 or 55?
It's just good pro active thinking... at least thats my take on the whole thing.

If you can help me out about the regualtions I would think about reforming my personal policy.

I would prefer that you just hand my the card I look at it and give it back but thats a bit hard over the internet.

Basically I am looking at this as if the goverment of canada says your allowed to have firearms... then you should be allowed to have primers and powder too..

Thanks for expressing your concern
 
Drew, no they do not require you to show an RPAL to buy 9mm ammo.... Ever hear of a 9mm carbine? Or a .357 lever action rifle? There are many, many reasons to need small pistol primers that to not require the possession of restricted firearms...

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Ah, I see you beat me to it! Good on ya!
 
It's your business, therefore it's your a$$. You conduct it in any manner required to ensure that you stay in business to keep us in ammo.

Hakx
 
There are legislated requirements.
A merchant can operate his business with whatever policies he wishes, above and beyond any legal requirements.
Potential customers are obligated to observe legal requirements.
Potential customers can also take their business wherever they choose, particularly if they disagree with a business' practices.
 
Canadian Tire doesn't require me to show a mechanics license when they sell me brake pads for a car.

Home depot doesn't require me to show a carpenters license when they sell me a nail gun.

Walmart doesn't require me to show a drivers license when they cut a new car key for me.

Family Pools doesn't require me to show a picture of my pool when they sell me highly concentrated muriatic acid.

The corner store didn't require me to show a pyrotechnic license when they sold me fireworks.

Petro-Canada doesn't require me to show a drivers license when they sell me gasoline.

Home Hardware doesn't require me to show an arbourist license when they sell me a chainsaw.

I think "protecting myself" and "in the interest of public safety" will be the two blanket catch all's that will
eventually finish this hobby.



Just some food for thought.
 
blacksmithden said:
The corner store didn't require me to show a pyrotechnic license when they sold me fireworks.
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I am not going to get into a fight here but the corner store has to follow the rules set out by nrcanada and only sell fireworks to people 18 years of age and older... The corner store fireworks dont require a pyrotechnics licnese because they are designed and sold to be used by people without them.

I can think of some to suport my side of the argument too...

How about the beer store?
Buying smokes?
Lottery tickets?
Gambling?

These things are alot less dangerous then explosives.

When you have your own business you can do what ever you want. My business started out trying to help people get components but 2 years later after hard work and little to show for it... I dont force anyone to buy anything from me its your choice.
 
msg.drew said:
I am not going to get into a fight here but the corner store has to follow the rules set out by nrcanada and only sell fireworks to people 18 years of age and older... The corner store fireworks dont require a pyrotechnics licnese because they are designed and sold to be used by people without them.

I can think of some to suport my side of the argument too...

How about the beer store?
Buying smokes?
Lottery tickets?
Gambling?

These things are alot less dangerous then explosives.

When you have your own business you can do what ever you want. My business started out trying to help people get components but 2 years later after hard work and little to show for it... I dont force anyone to buy anything from me its your choice.
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Oh, please dont' take it the wrong way Drew. I'm not trying to pick a fight by any means. You can do things however you like, in any manner that makes you feel comfortable. You've chosen to do business with a touchy crowd that's been ruled and regulated to death. We're going to be a bit touchy about rules that aren't written by "the one who can't be argued with". I thank you for even responding to this thread. It's more than we would get from some CFO's office.

I'd argue that alcohol, gamblling, and smoking ruin and end more lives per year than all the firearms in Canada put together do, much less reloading. ;)
 
Msg.Drew I didn't mean to start a flame fest here. Just wondered when the laws started requiring a PAL/RPAL for components, your EE post was the first time I had heard of this. It doesn't surprise me to hear the CFO has made up some more of their own rules.
Anyways, I've always thought your prices are very competitive and congratulations on the new site!
 
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