Rude Landowners

joe-nwt said:
He didn't breach anything. He asked permission.
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When does 'no' mean 'no' ?
The said property was posted with the owners intention for the property. Is that not good enough for you?

As a property owner (well posted) ... I've had trash dumped on my place, quad/dirtbike trails made across it, have found gut piles and more trash on it, found a 'grow-op' that was on my and my neighbor's property, had a moron who was hunting on my posted land tell me he was the owner, and had another moron on my land try to assault me .... I kicked his sorry ass for him, and was charged with assault (aquitted) ...

I own my land outright, pay my taxes, and post it in the prescribed manner and am subjected to all of the above.

To the OP .... you read the sign, or do you know how to read? ....
Again, why are you whinning about what was posted on the owners property?
 
I have one of those nice properties with a long driveway with private property & no hunting signs around it..
And I have had more then one person come up the drive and;
ask if he can hunt..
ell me they were looking for a lost dog..
Asking if such and such was here..
and one idiot on an ATV just setup camp in one of my fields..


I believe the signs should make it clear but...

I have given permission for hunting on 2 occasions.. I have a neighbour who is a status Indian. He who lives around the corner we had a lot of turkeys and it seems we were the only one... I gave him permission for 2 mornings to take 5..

the other wasn't really hunting.. We had a bear problem, the neighbourhood had a problem So I let one of the guys setup and take 3 of them..

It's for sale 277,700 comes with a 2000 ft shop/studio and 1500 ft house.. 100 acres.. You can do what you want with it if you buy it.. (moose, elk, black bear, fox, yote, fisher, quail, turkey, rabbit and more on the property... Organic garden and more maple trees then you can shake a stick at..
 
joe-nwt said:
He didn't breach anything. He asked permission.
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Exactly...The reply could have just as easily been firm, and polite..

joe-nwt said:
Excellent advice. I've had landowners change their mind after chatting with them for a while.
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Yup...

Macarena Man said:
When does 'no' mean 'no' ?
The said property was posted with the owners intention for the property. Is that not good enough for you?

To the OP .... you read the sign, or do you know how to read? ....
Again, why are you whinning about what was posted on the owners property?
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I have sole hunting rights to a heavily posred 1000 acres..How? I asked! More than once... Did a lil work for him, and voilà.. Those sighns aren't always meant for everyone...
 
Around here in my parts, the signs are pretty much to keep the "riff raff" out. If you are local and the farmer knows you....permission is usually granted. More than usual, the farmer just wants to know the times/dates you will be hunting and usually will let you know if he will be in certain areas contending to his farm work so no bullets come zinging past.
 
I don't think he was rude per say, at least he took the time to respond and left no room for miscommunication. Not all possess the attributes of tact and diplomacy, but he did respond. Is it only rude in your mind because he responded in the negative? Would you consider his response rude if he had resonded as abruptly in the positive?
 
Whatever you do... do NOT shoot a deer on his land and drag it to legal ground..

I repeat...

Do NOT do this!!!!
:D

Write a letter back to him and include some free latte coupons.
 
c-fbmi said:
Would you consider his response rude if he had resonded as abruptly in the positive?
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Th OP was polite enough to abide by the sighns, and left a letter of request ( polite I am sure) in the mail box, with his contact info...

"Take your interests elsewhere and if I ever see you on my property I am calling the police"

A bit harsh toward someone who was nothing, but respectful....

Not interested in having anyone hunt my property..Thank You...Better????
 
I'm torn on the issue. I live on 80 acres of semi-prime hunting ground (non center fire zone because it is fairly populated). I live across from 640 acres of crown land that is leased, hills, bush. My land is 70% bush, hills, 30% pasture.

Come hunting season, I hope I don't NEED TO become pissed off at the poor sportsmen cutting fences and accessing my land without permission. Based on the no-hunting signs everywhere around me, I am guessing there is a problem out my way though, with disrespectful hunters.

I have been told (by the few locals that will actually talk to me) that I will need to use the gates at the front of my driveway during hunting season! The rest of them won't talk to me because the rumour mill thinks that I paid double what I did for my land and intend to subdivide it and sell it off. So much for country hospitality.
 
Macarena Man said:
When does 'no' mean 'no' ?
The said property was posted with the owners intention for the property. Is that not good enough for you?

As a property owner (well posted) ... I've had trash dumped on my place, quad/dirtbike trails made across it, have found gut piles and more trash on it, found a 'grow-op' that was on my and my neighbor's property, had a moron who was hunting on my posted land tell me he was the owner, and had another moron on my land try to assault me .... I kicked his sorry ass for him, and was charged with assault (aquitted) ...

I own my land outright, pay my taxes, and post it in the prescribed manner and am subjected to all of the above.

To the OP .... you read the sign, or do you know how to read? ....
Again, why are you whinning about what was posted on the owners property?
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Unless I've mis-read to OP, nowhere did he say the land was posted with the word "no" anything. He said it was posted "private" which to most people with even minimal reading comprehension skills means "not public". Which means permission is required to access said land.

Do try and keep up.......
 
All I have to say is that ATTITUDE is half the battle.
If you were thoughtful enough to leave a letter, and not encroach on thier privacy, you have done a respectful thing.

With a landowner responding in such a negative,rude, almost childish way, it can offend people and discourage them from our sport.
It can also cause vandilism to the landowners property by those who react to that kind of attitude. It may be the landowners right to say no, but they dont have the right to brow beat someone for asking permission. Whether or not they get countless requests. They could just Choose not to respond. It would get the same message accross.

And it even worse how some people vadalize landowners property! That, I will never understand!

And just to make it clear, I am a land owner and have experienced this.

I cannot recall EVER hearing of a hunter who went out of his way to ask permission to hunt, and promptly go out and vandalize a farmers property. I'm sure its happened but extreamly rarely. And most "likely" an accident.

It seems to me that "SOME, not many, landowners" adopt a selfish (mine-MINE!) attitude.
Then they justify it by making up a story of vandilism. Not cool!

Thank HEAVENS most land owners are NOT like that!

I have slowly started hunting on crown lands over the years. I just hope that private lands remain open to hunters enough so my son,and others can enjoy the sport some day.

One thing I want to make clear, RESPECT is the way we ALL can get along. UNDERSTANDING from both sides, will get more people enjoying the sport.
 
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Another point, I am embarassed that some hunters are vandals!
They are the ones that start all this negativety!

Now my rant is over. Lol!

Straight shootin and keep it fun gunnutz!
 
How would these landowners respond if someone in an emergency was coming for help???Think about it, you don't know what their business is until they speak, or these the shoot first ask questions later type?
 
I have always had good luck with asking. Sometimes it is a no but not to often. The amount of land being posted is on the rise around here and a bit of courtesy goes along way.
 
bear.23 said:
I have one of those nice properties with a long driveway with private property & no hunting signs around it..
And I have had more then one person come up the drive and;
ask if he can hunt..
ell me they were looking for a lost dog..
Asking if such and such was here..
and one idiot on an ATV just setup camp in one of my fields..


I believe the signs should make it clear but...

I have given permission for hunting on 2 occasions.. I have a neighbour who is a status Indian. He who lives around the corner we had a lot of turkeys and it seems we were the only one... I gave him permission for 2 mornings to take 5..

the other wasn't really hunting.. We had a bear problem, the neighbourhood had a problem So I let one of the guys setup and take 3 of them..

It's for sale 277,700 comes with a 2000 ft shop/studio and 1500 ft house.. 100 acres.. You can do what you want with it if you buy it.. (moose, elk, black bear, fox, yote, fisher, quail, turkey, rabbit and more on the property... Organic garden and more maple trees then you can shake a stick at..
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Where? Roughly, don't need grid coordinate but the middle of nowhere turn left could be anywhere. ;)
 
joe-nwt said:
Unless I've mis-read to OP, nowhere did he say the land was posted with the word "no" anything. He said it was posted "private" which to most people with even minimal reading comprehension skills means "not public". Which means permission is required to access said land.

Do try and keep up.......
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Do you own land?
Do you deal with a 'public' that doesn't know what private means?
Have you thought about liability issues?

Do try to keep up yourself......
 
While waterfowling in Manitoba (always a pleasant experience) I had an oldtimer in a diner ask me if I was a hunter. I told him I was. He promptly told me that he would never allow any hunters on his land and went into details of shot cattle, ruined fences and tractor tires cut with broken whisky bottles. I found later from a friend there, that the old fart had lived in town his whole life and never ever farmed anything. Some folks take advantage of being able to say no.

Darryl
 
Macarena Man said:
Do you own land?
Do you deal with a 'public' that doesn't know what private means?
Have you thought about liability issues?

Do try to keep up yourself......
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As a matter of fact, I do own land. I have a quarter section in Manitoba that I use for hunting. I have it posted private property but will entertain enquiries about permission.

It has highway frontage and backs onto the Trans-Canada hiking trail. So I or my family deal with all kinds of "hunters".:rolleyes: I don't berate the good guys because of the bad guys though.

Anybody hunting on my land with permission still hunts at their own risk. Thats about all the liability I worry about.
 
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