Ok guys, I installed the Ruger Medium Extension Rings and VXIII 3 1/2 X 10....Loaded up some old stock Hornady 87 gr Pointed SP I had on hand, 43.5 gr of IMR 4350 COAL 2.91"...Load everything in Kubota, and over to the Range on the Back Hundred...I'm 300 lbs, heavy neck and shoulders, have to really fight to get useable relief, with a light jacket. I need the scope back another inch....SUGGESTIONS...I do have a VXIII 1 3/4 to 5 (or whatever) sitting in a box, and it hear what you are sayin "UGLY" but I have lotsa big fields of clover and deer plots, and I like bigger scopes for longer ranges...but I can't live with the relief I have...The rifle shot excellent, I was ringin a gong at 250 like strumming a guitar, just fighting relief steady, doubt I coulda hit a runnin deer. Oh and my CGN friend Deerfarmer showed up while we were shootin, of course he had a new Tikka in 6.5x55 with a 2 1/2X 8 VXIII Leupy He was Ringin the gong at 250 an jus grinnin'. Oh Hoyt I was shootin the NEF Hornet, didn't I get that from you??? It was ringin the gong at 250 like the other ones, kinda, it's a real fun rifle