The person you call “ Elbozo” is at least pro gun, had the other candidate won, very likely they wouldn’t have anything to put a silencer / muzzle brake on. And again, we are talking about a 22. Everyone thinks they are John Wick or super sniper.
Ruger 10/22 cheaply made wood stock
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people complain about quality and yet the reason for new firearms today being poor quality is because the buying public are cheap they don't want to pay for quality
exsample a rem 870 wing master hi luster blue walnut stocks would be 1500$ know one paid the price hence the crap that's out on the market now
ruger 77 / 1600$+
ruger american 800$
win model 70
win xpr and so on the canadian gun culture if you wish to call it that is geared towards low budget firearms
the cooey mentality
this holds true for 80% of the buying public
20 % will pay for quality
40 years in the firearm business i see it every day
exsample a rem 870 wing master hi luster blue walnut stocks would be 1500$ know one paid the price hence the crap that's out on the market now
ruger 77 / 1600$+
ruger american 800$
win model 70
win xpr and so on the canadian gun culture if you wish to call it that is geared towards low budget firearms
the cooey mentality
this holds true for 80% of the buying public
20 % will pay for quality
40 years in the firearm business i see it every day
OkayShooter
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Basically Ruger quality went to sh!t...
The TD. The rear sight were crooked because of indexing. So warranty center welded and recut the groove.
My MK3 had holes drilled in crooked. Then got a new one back with crooked front.
My 10/22 Target the barrel is bent to the left.
Never should sold my 1996 model.
OkayShooter
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But when someone been building guns for 60 years. Crooked sights shouldn't be a thing. And has nothing to do with quality. Alot of these issues were not a thing 30 years ago.
Guns are high because they can get away with charging high costs.
The people I'm referring to as "Elbozo's" are the Canadian voters, mostly of retirement age and up that still suck on the MSM tit and support the Liberals.
The threaded barrels are what the free market is asking for in places more free the Canada.... they don't bother me that much just make sure the thread protector is not loose!
I don't know about you, but if I could legally run a suppressor in Canada, it wouldn't be because I want to look like a Hollywood Action Star...
That said if someone else is in to buying guns they see on the screen I won't hold it against them.
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Actually its been 77 years! I would say that crooked sights are a quality issue!! Browning and Winchester(same) as well as Savage and Ruger plus the defunct Remington all make junk now but their shxt still sells and as long as that persists it will continue and unfortunately probably get worse. I own no Ruger rifles or Brownings and definately no Savage guns. Twenty or thirty years ago every one mentioned made fine firearms but not any longer. Your correct in the prices are high and they get away with it. BECAUSE we buy the junk theyre selling so they just keep making more and upping the price. Stop buying junk and theyll be forced to change but its the USA that drives the market and all the cheap shxt guns that are bought across the pond. My collection is severely smaller than what it was just 10 years ago but all my guns are quality and Id rather have far less and much better than a big pile of modern crap. My advice to new or young shooters is to buy quality older guns or save and buy quality new guns. Better quality>more guns of todays lack of quality.
Could you explain how you know who supports the Lieberals and who votes for them let alone the age demographic of them? Must be hard going thru standard doorways!!The people I'm referring to as "Elboo's" are the Canadian voters, mostly of retirement age and up that still suck on the MSM tit and support the Liberals.
The threaded barrels are what the free market is asking for in places more free the Canada.... they don't bother me that much just make sure the thread protector is not loose!
I don't know about you, but if I could legally run a suppressor in Canada, it wouldn't be because I want to look like a Hollywood Action Star...
Clearly not everyone over the age of 40 is stuck in their ways.... and clearly some younger people will vote for the Liberals.
We don't live in a binary world of absolutes. I don't really like the current Polling lead politics and many younger people are not participating so data is getting skewed, that said It surprises me that anyone in Canada that is remotely interested in politics does not know where the bulk of the Liberal Party's support is today?
I might not be as old as you are but I'm old enough to recognize that many of my generation also bought into the woke garbage and are now in positions of authority across the country... does it offend me personally? Not at all.
It's not unusual for older people to get rigid and stuck in their ways as they cling to past beliefs....
Getting offended by human nature is silly when we can learn to recognize it's patterns and strive to do better.
You still never answered the question and you have no idea of how old I am but Im pretty sure I am older than you. I have never voted Lieberal and never will. I dont classify people into a category because of when they are born and dont think its reasonasbe for anybody to do so! Lumping people into categories because of their age is immature in my opinion but then again Im closing on retirement age lol.
Sorry I thought your question was just you showing offence.... I tried to explain myself without answering what looked like a semi rhetorical run on rant of a question.
How do I know who supports and votes for the Liberals?
Mostly it's by talking with people in my Community... they happily share this information with me.
How do I know how old they are or what age demographic?
Sometimes I'm not the best judge of age, but for the most people I can guess if they are young, middle aged or old and when needed break them down into decades.
I'm sure it's different where you are, it's a big country so maybe the old people where you are vote Conservative and the younsters support the Liberals.. that's the way it used to be!
But where I live in B.C. what I mostly see with the average Liberal Supporter aligns with what the polling companies suggest as far as age demographic voting support.... our younger people are waking up and shifting Conservative though many remain further left of the the Liberals due to their indoctrination in school.
You seem to take it personally that older people in Canada tend to still watch "The News" on TV and vote Liberal?
I'm not blaming old people as I understand why they are doing it... they are dealing with an existential fear and consuming incomplete and biased information.
I never took you for an Elbozo Die Hard Liberal supporter, and I'm pretty sure it's not the first time you have stated on CGN that you've never voted Liberal..... so why get upset about people in your age group that act and vote differently?
I hate to break it to you like this online....... but your an outlier. And I for one, thank you for it.
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In my opinion 10-22’s have been junk guns for over 10 years, I have owned several of various vintages and the only one that was impressive was made in the mid sixties, it was actually accurate and reliable. I wouldn’t touch a new one with a ten foot pole.
Well sorry but I dont generalize what a few million people do simply from talking to locals in my area? I dont take it personally and I dont watch the news on tv or radio but also not going to assume what anyone does or who they vote for. From what Ive heard of in polls is that BC is primarily NDP and PC so you must live and be speaking with a very select demographic group but that would be me making assumptions. I am not into politics because all of them just end up being liars and weasels given enough time and its a put up with the lesser evil attitude. So just Ca(L)m Down and stop tribalizing generations with random conversations with a very small control group. Im also not sukin on any tit other than my wifes lovely set and I identify as a horny old white heterosexual. If your worryin bout gettin older the alternative should bother you more haha. Have a great weekend
I bought a take down when they came out and it's one of my favourites but other then the take down they have not really changed much in the line up, even the changes this year are more like modifications then an actual new design.
There is no denying it's reputation and widespread popularity over a few generations now.
I'll weigh in now as another retired Boomer who has always voted conservative.
I've bought a couple of guns from Cabela's over the years, the most recent about 3 years back. At least at that point, Cabela's had you sign a document stating that you understood that once you walked out the door, they no longer cared about you and your gun. If you opened the box when you got to your truck and discovered a cracked frame, a smoothbore rifle barrel, etc....anything at all...they will not help you, telling you instead to contact the distributor.
As an aside, they also expressly forbid cocking the action and trying the trigger in the store.
So I suspect that your buddy is SOL with his crappy stock.
I've bought a couple of guns from Cabela's over the years, the most recent about 3 years back. At least at that point, Cabela's had you sign a document stating that you understood that once you walked out the door, they no longer cared about you and your gun. If you opened the box when you got to your truck and discovered a cracked frame, a smoothbore rifle barrel, etc....anything at all...they will not help you, telling you instead to contact the distributor.
As an aside, they also expressly forbid cocking the action and trying the trigger in the store.
So I suspect that your buddy is SOL with his crappy stock.
Well I guess if you buy "on line" you probably wont get "hand selected".
Its like SKS rifles....some times its WOW I got a great one....... and then there is "it sure looked better in the add."
I always buy hand selected when I can.
Its small potatoes ,..his 22 shoots just fine, he will be happy hunting varmints and gophers and the gun will get "farm use"
Is it fair...no.. but some one has to end up with these "less than perfect" fire arms.
I feel kinda responsible because I told him to buy one with a wood stock......they were generally good back in the day.
No doubt If he would have waited , he could have got the new "updated one for the same price... Who would want the old version when you can get the upgraded one. I sure wouldnt buy the old version now.
He certainly paid TOP price for an old version, LOL
Maybe that's why Baspro has these on a blow out sale price.....the new stock is coming inn ??
Its like SKS rifles....some times its WOW I got a great one....... and then there is "it sure looked better in the add."
I always buy hand selected when I can.
Its small potatoes ,..his 22 shoots just fine, he will be happy hunting varmints and gophers and the gun will get "farm use"
Is it fair...no.. but some one has to end up with these "less than perfect" fire arms.
I feel kinda responsible because I told him to buy one with a wood stock......they were generally good back in the day.
No doubt If he would have waited , he could have got the new "updated one for the same price... Who would want the old version when you can get the upgraded one. I sure wouldnt buy the old version now.
He certainly paid TOP price for an old version, LOL
Maybe that's why Baspro has these on a blow out sale price.....the new stock is coming inn ??
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I think that Ruger has sold so many 10/22's (over 10million according to American Rifleman) that they are just skating by on past reputation rather than quality. Not to mention that they are the Honda Civic of the gun world with over 70 different variations (according to the internet) of the 10/22.
Factory rifles are hit or miss. Bass Pro/Cabelas gave me the impression no one truly paying attention to what they are putting on the racks and in the cases. They claim that they inspect them before putting them out but I think that’s bulls$&t. Bass Pro doesn’t even let us here in Florida inspect the firearms with the lock off. So no testing of the action . I bought a Marlin 30-30 and had to deal with Marlin directly to get them to replace the disgusting rifle. I won’t buy firearms from them ever again after that inconvenience of an experience; to say the least. I’m tired of factory rifles in general. Too much of a luck of the draw without too much chance for luck. I have to admit my preferences and standards have gotten higher and more stringent over the years. Even deluxe rifles leave some to be desired. From now on it’s custom or nothing. Well, maybe a deluxe Sako,Stey Mannlicher or Weatherby for the nice furniture and reputation. But I’ve found even they can be a luck of the draw . Research for honest reviews on the internet and know that you may still have to get work done on a factory rifle before you buy one if you have high standards. Keep your expectations realistic so your disappointment is nominal.Or be patient and save up for a custom . Pay attention if your hot to buy a Winchester model 70 Super Grade or Super Maple. I’ve
hand inspected five and not one is worth adding to my collection other than for their look;and even then. Caveat Emptor(buyer beware). Winchester wouldn’t have let this crap out of the factory years ago. And some of the knuckleheads selling them(not all) could care less or don’t know better.
IMO with the modern manufacturing equipment they have these days, there is NO excuse for the shoddy quality/workmanship, crooked sights etc. some of these companies are producing. The problem is nobody cares anymore, not just with the gun industry but everywhere it seems. How often do you hear “its hard to get good help these days” from many employers? If the employees don’t care, quality suffers and unfortunately that is very common today.
I now have his stock and I am going to repair it.
Going to do some JB Weld filling on the inner sides of the stock where the mag goes in.
add about 25thou on both sides. its way to wide.
Then I am going to lightly sand the stock and hit it with some Darker Stain so it doesn't look like Cardboard.
Then I will add 4 coats of True-Oil for a final finish.
I redone one a few years back for buddy, he wanted it Green LOL , see pic WILL POST OF THE NEW ONE when its finished.
Going to do some JB Weld filling on the inner sides of the stock where the mag goes in.
add about 25thou on both sides. its way to wide.
Then I am going to lightly sand the stock and hit it with some Darker Stain so it doesn't look like Cardboard.
Then I will add 4 coats of True-Oil for a final finish.
I redone one a few years back for buddy, he wanted it Green LOL , see pic WILL POST OF THE NEW ONE when its finished.
