Ruger 10/22 Magazine: Background and the Latest Update

Wow, in my line of work if I don't know the rules, codes and laws I loose my license, job and could possibly get sued.
 
Diablo7101 said:
Wow, in my line of work if I don't know the rules, codes and laws I loose my license, job and could possibly get sued.
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unfortunately, they explained that if they werent sure and did not sieze it, and it did turn out to be illegal they would be liable if anything illegal happened with those mags.

for what they are worth i will not be traveling to the mission detachment to plead my case. it is cheaper to buy new ones...
 
Law is law. mis interpretation of the law is no excuse as is ignorance of the law for citizen and law enforcement. Our duty is to know of the law and abide. Their job is to fully understand the law and enforce it...not guess and enforce. Call the CSSA and join if not a member (if you are a member you are automatically covered by the legal services). A quick response to this from a lawyer will put these idiots in their place and prevent any further guessing of the law from 'law enforcement."
 
Deman said:
Law is law. mis interpretation of the law is no excuse as is ignorance of the law for citizen and law enforcement. Our duty is to know of the law and abide. Their job is to fully understand the law and enforce it...not guess and enforce. Call the CSSA and join if not a member (if you are a member you are automatically covered by the legal services). A quick response to this from a lawyer will put these idiots in their place and prevent any further guessing of the law from 'law enforcement."
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Wait, what??? So you're saying if i join the CSSA i'm automatically covered by their legal services, are you sure about this or talking out of your ass? Which legal service are you referring to? If you're talking about liability then you're WRONG! If you're talking about the first party legal expense insurance they endorse, you're also wrong, as per their current wordings possession of a prohibited device isn't covered... if you're referring to access to their legal fund, well thats not automatic, so you're wrong again. So please go ahead and elaborate.
 
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Original: http://myemail.constantcontact.com/...CTION.html?soid=1124731702303&aid=U1AJXd1stas

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - July 28, 2016

ETOBICOKE, ONTARIO - The Canadian Shooting Sports Association (CSSA), representing recreational firearms owners, has joined with the Canadian Sporting Arms and Ammunition Association (CSAAA), representing firearms business owners, to empower legal action against the recent decision by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Firearms Program to prohibit several brands of imported 10/22 extended capacity rifle magazines.

The CSAAA and CSSA Boards of Directors voted late last week to raise and contribute funding to a legal defence fund to make this legal action possible.

The action will be conducted by noted firearms lawyer Edward L. Burlew, L.L.B. , General Counsel for the CSSA.

Mr. Burlew states, "This recent, sudden reversal deprives legal firearms owners of their property rights and attacks their freedom. The RCMP has a duty to every Canadian to act fairly and consistently. The recent decision to reverse position on Ruger 10/22 magazines holding over 10 cartridges is a deliberate move to cause serious worry to hundreds of thousands of Canadians, licenced firearms dealers and importers."

Burlew adds, " A Federal Court Class Action on behalf of all persons, individuals, dealers and distributors who now possess cartridge magazines to fit the Ruger 10/22 that can contain more than 10 cartridges will be commenced. The purpose of the action is to seek a judgement that these magazines are not prohibited, to declare the magazine capacity restrictions void as unconstitutional or in the alternative to force a buy-back of each at full retail value. A claim for the intentional infliction of mental distress due to the fear of police action and criminal charges will be included."

Individuals are advised not to use, transfer, dispose of, alter or modify, or transport these magazines at this time.

At this time, due to the controversy, importers, dealers and individual owners are advised to stop sales and transfers of all 10/22 high capacity (over 10 rounds) rifle magazines. Businesses are cautioned not to attempt to “pin” magazines unless their license specifically authorizes work on prohibited magazines.

We are advising against businesses or their customers surrendering or returning these magazines to anyone at this time.

If you are the consumer owner of one of these magazines your participation in the action is very much desired. THERE IS NO FEE FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION BUT DONATIONS TO THE ACTION ARE WELCOME.

DONATIONS CAN BE MADE AT: 10/22 +10 Class Action Donation

From consumer owners we need:
• A communication informing us of your willingness to participate in a class action lawsuit;
• Brands and models of 10/22 +10 round capacity magazines currently in inventory and the value of the inventory;
• Digital copies of product packaging, manufacturers’ or distributors’ product sales information, product press releases;
• Any information, actions or comments by your Chief Firearms Officer, Inspectors, RCMP or any other law enforcement agency.
Consumer owners interested in joining the class action, are asked to email the above information to the CSSA at classaction@cssa-cila.org.

For more information call the CSSA at 905-571-2150.

From business owners we need:
• A communication informing us of your willingness to participate in a class action lawsuit;
• Brands and models of 10/22 +10 round capacity magazines currently in inventory and the value of the inventory;
• Digital copies of any product packaging, manufacturers’ or distributors’ product sales information, product press releases you may possess;
• Any information, actions or comments by your Chief Firearms Officer, Inspectors, RCMP or any other law enforcement agency.
Business owners interested in joining the class action, are asked to email the above information to the CSAAA at csaaa.legalaction@gmail.com.

For more information call the CSAAA at 705-875-2302.
 
Donation sent, as this is the only way law abiding Canadians can show the RCMP that we are not the problem when it comes to the safety of Canadians, and that they need to focus on the real problem, UNREGISTERED FIREARMS coming in from the States, not RESPONSIBLE citizens!

Here is their chance to do the right thing, and regain their lost respect and trust.....

I just cannot understand why the RCMP do not value the support of Canadians anymore, and are allowing themselves to be used as simple pawns to promote an agenda that ultimately will turn on them as well.

We are all Canadians, this them and us will cost everyone in the end.....

While shooting with my son this weekend he heard me discussing this with my friend while plinking, and no matter how we tried we could not explain to him why a 10 round magazine made everyone safer than a 25 round magazine.

Donation link here:
http://store.cssa-cila.org/cart.php?...ategory_id=253
 
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If there still is no more in the way of an official confirmation or statement than that internal memo, which doesn't have standard RCMP header or document numbers, isn't formatted correctly, isn't bilingual, and according to a friend who works for the Horsemen, could not have been broadcast through official channels, I'm going to continue not wigging out. The second we do get a credible official statement, I will commence wigging.
 
Can we have a 10/22 action center forum similar to the bill S223 forum.
There are numerous threads on the magazine situation and they are all over the pages. I would also like a sticky for 10/22 letter sharing, and if the member that made the auto-mailer for the swiss arms 858 fiasco would set it up again, I think we could show the government what a pile of dog poo the rcmp stepped in and is tacking all over the governments carpets.
 
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If there still is no more in the way of an official confirmation or statement than that internal memo, which doesn't have standard RCMP header or document numbers, isn't formatted correctly, isn't bilingual, and according to a friend who works for the Horsemen, could not have been broadcast through official channels, I'm going to continue not wigging out. The second we do get a credible official statement, I will commence wigging.
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See this:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/notice-avis-2016-07-27-eng.htm

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22 Long Rifle calibre magazines for 10/22 platform firearms

***In light of several inquiries received recently regarding the legal status of 22 Long Rifle calibre magazines for 10/22 platform firearms, please see the following information:***
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