I'll vote for the Ruger American Rimfire. I'm not a good enough shot to tell the difference between them, but my RAR has performed as expected with the benefit of having a better stock that doesn't need to be junked immediately and having better mags.
Ruger American Rimfire vs. Savage Mark II .22lr
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I've tried a MKII and had a savage 93R17FV in 17hmr both good rifles imo.
I did not like the mag on the mkII, it will get the job done but it definitely at the bottom of mags in 22s available right before the mag for the 64F which is the worst available from my POV.
It depend what you want to do, precision shooting I would say both will work fine and maybe having the MKII TR would be a great option but for the price point I would personally go with a CZ455 which will give you much more bang for the buck (more precise, superb factory trigger, awesome mag, superior finish...).
If you're looking for something to hunt, again both will do the job I believe the ruger is slightly lighter though.
I'm leaning toward the ruger in 22mag with it's 30° bolt throw, factory adjustable cheek rest, iron sight if needed, better mags and light weight.
If it's not the ruger it'll be the CZ 455 canadian edition in 22mag man that rifle rocks.
I did not like the mag on the mkII, it will get the job done but it definitely at the bottom of mags in 22s available right before the mag for the 64F which is the worst available from my POV.
It depend what you want to do, precision shooting I would say both will work fine and maybe having the MKII TR would be a great option but for the price point I would personally go with a CZ455 which will give you much more bang for the buck (more precise, superb factory trigger, awesome mag, superior finish...).
If you're looking for something to hunt, again both will do the job I believe the ruger is slightly lighter though.
I'm leaning toward the ruger in 22mag with it's 30° bolt throw, factory adjustable cheek rest, iron sight if needed, better mags and light weight.
If it's not the ruger it'll be the CZ 455 canadian edition in 22mag man that rifle rocks.
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Blazer was around ¾" I think at 50M cci subsonic hp was someplace in that area as well. Tossed the target when I was cleaning.
whats up with people not liking the accutrigger ? I like mine, tried others and honestly can't complain about it!
also, never had any problems with either my 5rounders or 10 rounders mags, I do like the 10rounders better as you can double the fun time hehe
also, never had any problems with either my 5rounders or 10 rounders mags, I do like the 10rounders better as you can double the fun time hehe
In 22 LR the savages are known to be more accurate than the RAR. But the ruger is a nicer gun otherwise. The savage has a cheap synthetic stock and sheet metal mags. I got a nasty cut fron the mag release when i caught it's fall. Thank you savage bean counters for the sheet metal. So to me the savage is preferred with a laminate stock and heavy barrel.
In 22 mag however the RAR is more accurate so it's better in every way than the savage.
As has been mentioned, in the more pricey savages you are close to the cz/brno price point. I would save/spend the extra. It is worth what you get.
In 22 mag however the RAR is more accurate so it's better in every way than the savage.
As has been mentioned, in the more pricey savages you are close to the cz/brno price point. I would save/spend the extra. It is worth what you get.
^this. I've owned maybe 7 Savage rimfires over the years (22/17HMR/22WMR) and quite frankly, I believe I'm done with them. Only my Savage Rascal remains...and it may always remain because my 2 youngest kids (now 11/14) are too big for it...but won't accept that fact. lol Anyhow, OF the two...I'd pick the RAR and the RAR will get the nod if I ever decide to get another 22WMR. Until then, my current favorite is my CZ452 Varmint in 22LR. Love that gun..
...and another thing.. 
I own 2 bolt action, heavy-barrel Savage centerfires (.223/.243) and they're excellent guns. Rough build quality, but good triggers and tack-driving accuracy with hand loads. (sub-MOA with good factory ammo too) I'm not a huge fan of the accutrigger, but I'm always a bit surprised when I hear people knocking them. I think they're about the best trigger you can get in a field-grade, sub-$500 rimfire..and I've had lots of rimfires that fit that description. Again, I don't think they're great, but the ones on my centerfires feel/perform better than the ones on my rimfires did..and they were very decent in my estimation.
I own 2 bolt action, heavy-barrel Savage centerfires (.223/.243) and they're excellent guns. Rough build quality, but good triggers and tack-driving accuracy with hand loads. (sub-MOA with good factory ammo too) I'm not a huge fan of the accutrigger, but I'm always a bit surprised when I hear people knocking them. I think they're about the best trigger you can get in a field-grade, sub-$500 rimfire..and I've had lots of rimfires that fit that description. Again, I don't think they're great, but the ones on my centerfires feel/perform better than the ones on my rimfires did..and they were very decent in my estimation.- Location
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I've owned Lakefield (now Savage) and Ruger .22's for over 35 years and wanted to buy a good quality and accurate one for indoor ISSF shooting. Yes, some say that there are more accurate rifles out there and I guess there are, but I'm just not willing to spend the additional money to find out.
Last fall I picked up a Savage BTVLSS left hand thumbhole version. It has proved to be about as accurate as I need. It had a Redfield scope on it but I could not focus it down to the 20 range that we shoot at. I replaced it with a Millett 4-16X50 IR. While I have not sighted it in yet, I'm confident it will be adequate.
Here is a pic of the target that it shot Monday night with the Redfield scope (blurry).
Last fall I picked up a Savage BTVLSS left hand thumbhole version. It has proved to be about as accurate as I need. It had a Redfield scope on it but I could not focus it down to the 20 range that we shoot at. I replaced it with a Millett 4-16X50 IR. While I have not sighted it in yet, I'm confident it will be adequate.
Here is a pic of the target that it shot Monday night with the Redfield scope (blurry).
It depends what you use the gun,
For hunting which it's primarily purpose having a safe and light trigger this gets the job done wonderfully!
And if it was really crap why is everbody copying savage? (Ruger, marlin...)
Try finding a company that has an adjustable trigger close to (from my understanding of your statement) around a pound or less that sells the rifle for -500$. There's always better and I think the point of discussion is how good is it in it's original configuration.
I have a savage 10fcp-sr for target shooting it pulls a consistent 2lbs 2oz which for an oem rifle is perfect imo.
In the other hand I have a marlin 795 and the trigger suck! I replaced the springs, the trigger guard and blade now I have it at 3,5lbs but it's a plinker and hunting rifle still safe to use and much more precise than the mushy 7lbs previously.
if you want hair sensible trigger upgrade it, but you can't say their adjustable trigger is crap because you can't adjust them as low as you would want.
If I follow your reasoning every factory trigger is crap. IMO for a factory trigger it really is good, never jerked a shot because of it and it doesn't feel creep to me.
Anyway, to each his own opinion but I find nothing bad about their trigger.
That's laughable~"horrible" compared to what in a Savage rimfire price range? lol I don't think they're great, but they're certainly not horrible. Funny how the accutrigger gets picked-on when so many other beloved 22s with worse triggers never get scrutinized for it. Don't get be wrong, I like nice triggers..my CZ has a Yo Dave, my Marlin 917 a Rifle Basix, my 795s MCARBO...but never any desire to upgrade a Savage. They were always good enough.
Its all relative. If the rest of your rifles have timney triggers then yeah the accutrigger is bad... if on the other hand your other guns consist of an sks, enfield, and 12ga shotgun, that accutrigger is suddenly very nice.
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I've heard the accutrigger will "lock" if pressed sideways, requiring the rifle to be cocked again. Is this a thing? Seems like you shouldn't be pressing the trigger sideways anyways but I could see how it could get knocked around a bit if you're firing fast.
Also, it's looking like if Ruger comes out with a heavy barrel version of the RAR or some other more accurate version and keeps the cost low it'll be a savage killer.
Also, it's looking like if Ruger comes out with a heavy barrel version of the RAR or some other more accurate version and keeps the cost low it'll be a savage killer.
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Here is a pic of the target that it shot Monday night with the Redfield scope (blurry).
Awesome! Hard to argue with that...
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Yup it is a thing. All of mine did it. All you had to do was bump it in the wrong direction and it would happen. Say wearing a glove and bump the side of the trigger you hear a click and have to recock.
