Ruger and Tikka

[prosper]

And these guys's:
http://www.shootingtimes.com/longgun_reviews/savage_0813/

 

[boonerbuck]

Fools my trigger pull gauge too, then I guess...

...and what does your trigger guage tell you that the Sako/Tikka trigger breaks at when adjusted down?

I don't own any rifle called "Competitor 1,2,3,4 blah blah blah" but I do own 3 Tikka T3's and 2 Sako 75's and a Savage M-10 Sierra with an Accutrigger. The Accutrigger is not lighter. They break about the same but the Gimmicky safety feature on the Savage I consider clumsy and with the extra moving parts, I was not impressed when it malfunctioned in the -30 weather last winter.

I'm basing my opinion on experience not some biased magazine.

 

[blargon]

Tikka used to be the Finnish state arsenal. A state company, if you will. IIRC, Beretta owns both Sako and Tikka now

The correct history:

Established in 1893, Tikka originally manufactured gun parts for European governments, mainly Russia. Sako (a Finnish acronym for what translates to "Arms and Engineering Workshop of the Civil Guard") was established in 1919 where, in an old brewery in Helsinki, it refurbished old military rifles for the Finnish National Guard as part of an effort to arm and establish Finland as its own nation.

In 1921 Sako became financially independent and widely recognized for its staff's passionate ability to repair broken down military arms. In 1927, when it actually became officially known as Sako, it moved to Riihimaki and began manufacturing rifles for the Russian Army. After World War II, Sako turned its efforts toward manufacturing sporting rifles for European hunters.

"The first Sako that made it to America, in 1947, was ordered by Ambercrombi & Fitch," says Tom Leoni, Sako product marketing manager. "It was one ugly rifle. It sold for $60, but it was a tack-driver. And Sako's reputation for building a fine shooting piece escalated from there."

In 1983 Sako purchased Tikka, which had been manufacturing sporting rifles for 25 years. In 1989, the Tikka plant was moved from its home town, Tikkakosken, to the Sako plant in Riihimaki, and since then the two rifles have been built by the same craftsmen and with the same machinery and tools. Today Tikka is not a separate company, rather a Sako product.

Which brings us back to manufacturing ideology: Tikka rifles are essentially a lower price-point version of a Sako, yet they feature the same quality barrels and craftsmanship that have built a lasting reputation for fine accuracy."

 

[oldfart]

They still do. The dealer must be misinformed.




Just from my impressions from handling a tikka in the gunshop, I'd tend to agree. For the price of a Tikka, you can get a much better rifle. Noth that there's anything WRONG with the Tikka, it's just a bit overpriced IMHO. Plus, the quality of the Tikka's has seemed to go down quite a bit over the last few years - since Sako bought them out. If I were a conspiracy nut, I'd say this was done deliberately, so as not to compete with the more expensive Sako-branded line.

Hi prosper, over the last two weeks ive been looking at rifles "again" in Kamloops and Vancouver. At both gunshops i tried weatherbys, sako and tikka, and on weatherbys and sako the was some trigger creep. Both tikka rifles were crisp and no creep.

I was surprised as tikka is the less expensive of the group.

 

[Alberta Bigbore]

After checking Remington's webpage, the model 700 SPS stainless really caught my eye. It sure looks beautiful, it's in 308 win, has a stainless barrel in case I'm in the middle of nowhere for how long, internal mag so nothing to get lost, and sounds accurate. Best of all it won't break my bank, so I can afford a nice scope and sling. My only question is on the synthetic stock, how do remington's synthetic stocks feel comfort wise and do they affect accuracy? The model 700 VSF HS stock sounded nicer, but it's too much for my wallet.

heres one of my remi SPS stainless models, shes in a .270 and bullets damn near touch at 100 yards all day long with federal Fusion 130gr i think they feel good, shoot good, but the lines on the stocks look like crap. The XCR remis look even worse with all that gray hogue overmolding But i still like them

 

[the_big_mike]

Hi prosper, over the last two weeks ive been looking at rifles "again" in Kamloops and Vancouver. At both gunshops i tried weatherbys, sako and tikka, and on weatherbys and sako the was some trigger creep. Both tikka rifles were crisp and no creep.

I was surprised as tikka is the less expensive of the group.

I was really surprised with the tikka trigger too when I got it.

Of course the tikka has a beautiful action too. People knock the plasticness of it, or the ability to top load (I top load all the time you just drop it on the mag) but its tough, light and I'll take that thing everywhere!

 

[jcbruno]

go with savage buddy cheaper and likely more accurate than both your options

sorry big fella a savage is not more acurate than a tikka , tikkas have the same barrel as a sako far superior, tikka over ruger bud hands down