Ruger BX-25 - 25 ROUND FACTORY RUGER 10/22 MAGAZINE

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This genuine Ruger® factory magazine with Ruger® logo has been tested and has proven to feed as reliably as the standard BX-1™ 10-round Ruger® rotary magazine. BX-25™ magazines will work with any factory original Ruger® 10/22® rifle, SR-22® rifle, and 22 Charger™ pistol.

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WILL ANYONE BE CARRYING THESE HERE?????
 
They are deemed prohib by the RCMP as it is classed a pistol mag due to marketing it for the 10/22 and the "charger Pistol"

use the search function
 
Wrong Way said:
Find thread with (at most) 0 replies?

May be your problem.

My god the default search settings are garbage on this site. Too bad...the rest is good but the search function tarnishes everything else. :(
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Even when the defaults are not blocking out any chance of success, the search here is worse than poor. Dunno why, dunno what to do about it, but I know what's not working.

FWIW, P&D said in one of the other threads that they were getting some of these in.
Sad news is that it looks like they will have to be pinned to 10 rounds to comply with the rules. Bleh.

I was looking forward to grabbing a couple. May still.

Cheers
Trev
 
Wrong Way said:
Find thread with (at most) 0 replies?

May be your problem.

My god the default search settings are garbage on this site. Too bad...the rest is good but the search function tarnishes everything else. :(
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trevj said:
Even when the defaults are not blocking out any chance of success, the search here is worse than poor.


Trev
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Most of the time it is operator error ,not the search. Dont put "-.,!@#$%" in your search and also look for "Find Posts from" on the page and change it to the time period you are looking for .
 
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Mr. Spectacular said:
Detailed Description
This genuine Ruger® factory magazine with Ruger® logo has been tested and has proven to feed as reliably as the standard BX-1™ 10-round Ruger® rotary magazine. BX-25™ magazines will work with any factory original Ruger® 10/22® rifle, SR-22® rifle, and 22 Charger™ pistol.

http://###.ruger.com/news/2011-04-29b.html

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WILL ANYONE BE CARRYING THESE HERE?????
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E-mailed Rimfire Sports and Customs about ordering them from the States.
Their said that they assume that they will be used legally and shipped me the order. If the order gets through US/Canadian customs is another storey.
UPDATE
I guess I am not going to see this order. Been a while and no tracking number or info. I guess some custom agent is at the range having a bit of fun plinking with his Ruger.
 
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Does anyone have an official link that states these mags as being prohibited in Canada?


Zamboniman: If these are prohibited devices, you might as well order a silencer or automatic-knife. Either would be cooler and if you are going to "do it anyway" you might as well go big.

I believe that the rules have recently changed at Canada Customs where they now are able to get police involved for any prohibited components intercepted at the border if they choose to.

Get ready! You have three Scenarios:
1) Items pass through Canada customs (most likely) but now you are in possession of prohibited items... I'd recommend pinning them to 10rnds ASAP.
2) Items are seized and slated for destruction at the border; a letter is sent to you asking if you want to contest their decision.
3) The least likely... Items are intercepted, police are involved, package continues to your address and a "sting" is setup for the moment you pickup the package. This would be the most exciting scenario.

*I'd recommend calling the CFC to get the official word on these mags: 1-800-731-4000*
Never mind I'll do it ;)

Update:
Ugh... it's funny because not even the CFC can field these questions... I got passed around over and over... some technicians telling me only 5rnds max for rimfire rifle LOL!!!
OUR FIREARM LAWS AND THE SYSTEM IN PLACE TO CONTROL IT IS A JOKE!!!!!!

So the best explanation I got form the third "technician" was that if it is made for a rifle, but can fit in a pistol it has to be limited to 10rnds; an explanation I don't believe and think is also false. What a joke.

I asked specifically about the Ruger BX-25 mags, no one knew what the hell I was talking about. I said I wanted some specific decision made with regards to deeming the BX-25 a prohibited device... all I'd get it pauses and stupid-ass explanations on their own personal interpretations about magazines and Canadian Law.

When laws become so discombobulated that not even the specialists can answer the questions, that's a sure sign we've gone too far.
 
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http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm

Current Issues

1. Magazines designed or manufactured for both rimfire calibre rifles and handguns

Magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle do not have a regulated capacity. However, magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. Magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges.

Example:
Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 rifle and 15-22P pistol chambered for 22LR caliber:

the 10 round magazine is unregulated
the 25 round magazine is a prohibited device
 
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Thank you for the link...

I'm thinking the CFC people should read that and memorize it; or at least tell me to find it on the RCMP website.
Seriously, listening to them rambling off crap was aggravating & infuriating all at the same time.
 
RadMan said:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm

Current Issues

1. Magazines designed or manufactured for both rimfire calibre rifles and handguns

Magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle do not have a regulated capacity. However, magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. Magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges.

Example:
Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 rifle and 15-22P pistol chambered for 22LR caliber:

the 10 round magazine is unregulated
the 25 round magazine is a prohibited device
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Hmm, so the Butler Creeks are grandfathered since they were "designed or manufactured" before the Charger pistol? :confused:
 
sigger69 said:
Hmm, so the Butler Creeks are grandfathered since they were "designed or manufactured" before the Charger pistol? :confused:
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They are fine because they were manufactured for the RIFLE, but the ruger ad clearly says the magazine is for both the rifle and pistol.
 
sigger69 said:
Hmm, so the Butler Creeks are grandfathered since they were "designed or manufactured" before the Charger pistol? :confused:
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and that is the same with the black dog drum mags for the S&W because they were made for the rifle . They must only be made for a rifle ,its not what they fit but what they are made for
 
cadgo said:
They are fine because they were manufactured for the RIFLE, but the ruger ad clearly says the magazine is for both the rifle and pistol.
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I wonder if it would be worthwhile to contact butler creek, encourage them to continue packaging their 25 rounders for rifles strictly - Anyone who owns a charger without a doubt knows it uses the same mags.
Their Canada side sales would outright stop if they were to make a change without forethought.
 
Utah said:
I wonder if it would be worthwhile to contact butler creek, encourage them to continue packaging their 25 rounders for rifles strictly - Anyone who owns a charger without a doubt knows it uses the same mags.
Their Canada side sales would outright stop if they were to make a change without forethought.
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And on the flip side, we should email Ruger and tell them that they could have sold a ton of the BX-25 in Canada if it wasn't for their stupid marketing campaign.
 
The CFC should provide a rimfire exemption across the board. They certainly can't demonstrate that any of this administrative chicanery is useful or beneficial to Canada.
 
Mr. Spectacular said:
And on the flip side, we should email Ruger and tell them that they could have sold a ton of the BX-25 in Canada if it wasn't for their stupid marketing campaign.
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Let's not lay blame at Ruger's feet. This is totally, 100% ANOTHER complete and utter failure of our firearms laws up here. Don't forget that Ruger is the same company that started building 4.2" revolvers to appease our overlords.

(Incidentally, when I mentioned the 4.2" revolvers to a buddy of mine that did his PAL, but isn't too much of a gunnut, he interrupted me mid-sentence, and said "WTF? What's so special about 4.2"?" I explained, and he thought it was absolutely idiotic.)

There is nothing wrong with them marketing a fantastic new magazine as being versatile enough for use in both the rifle and the 'pistol'.

I'm sure they'll see much success without our business. It is up to us to change the law so we can once again enjoy a taste of freedom.
 
GeoTrekr said:
Let's not lay blame at Ruger's feet. This is totally, 100% ANOTHER complete and utter failure of our firearms laws up here. Don't forget that Ruger is the same company that started building 4.2" revolvers to appease our overlords.
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Not just Ruger. Chiappa (and as specified in the memo, S&W) too, and probably anyone else making .22 AR pistols. I think it might have been the influx of Chiappas that led to that RCMP memo. It was about the same time they started to become widely available earlier this year. 10 rounds from the Chiappa mags. the full 28 from Black Dog ones, IIRC
 
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