Ruger BX-25 magazines

BX-25 Mag Banned

This is what I got from Ruger on this just now:


Hello,

Can you please re-word the description of your BX-25 magazine.

Because of the fact that you added the wording "fits in the Charger Pistol" in the product description, we cannot import it into Canada.

If you could please remove the word "Charger Pistol" you could double your sales. Everyone knows it fits the charger pistol without having to state it.

The same is true for the .556/223 stamped on your barrels. Just stamp it as "wild chamber" and it can be imported.

Thanks,

Response:
According to a bulletin from the RCMP dated March 23, 2011, magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges. Since the Ruger Charger pistols use the same magazines as the Ruger 10-22 rifles, the Ruger magazines are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges. This may change in the future if the RCMP decides to modify its ruling.

If you need further information, please visit our website at www.ruger.com or contact us at:

Revolvers, shotguns, rifles, 10/22 Charger Pistol: (603) 865-2442
Pistols: (928) 778-6555
Serial Number History Information: (603) 865-2424

Please note: This e-mail is sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message.

Sincerely,
Ruger Firearms
 
Response:
According to a bulletin from the RCMP dated March 23, 2011, magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges. Since the Ruger Charger pistols use the same magazines as the Ruger 10-22 rifles, the Ruger magazines are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges. This may change in the future if the RCMP decides to modify its ruling.
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This whole situation
can be a sh!tstorm of catastrofic proportions.

If the RCMP ruling in post #21 is quoted exactly,
then ALL the 10/22 mags with 10+ capacity could be
ruled illegal in Canada
if they have been manufactured
after the commercial release of the Charger.

This could be very messy.

No, it's not the first time when we are fcuked by RCMP,
and it's not the first time when we are fcuked by Sturm-Ruger either,
as IIRC, they (Ruger) fcuked us before (many years ago)
regarding magazine capacity.
 
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Lets just have the 20 people that actually own a charger in Canada turn them in and then there will be no handguns in Canada that fit this magazine? LOL. I do't even see the point of a charger, big goofy looking handgun and can only be used at a range. Ruger would seriously sell millions of those magazines and I bet hardly sells any chargers in canada because of them being range only.
 
magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns
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Dr.Lector said:
This whole situation
can be a sh!tstorm of catastrofic proportions.

If the RCMP ruling in post #21 is quoted exactly,
then ALL the 10/22 mags with 10+ capacity could be
ruled illegal in Canada
if they have been manufactured
after the commercial release of the Charger.

This could be very messy.

No, it's not the first time when we are fcuked by RCMP,
and it's not the first time when we are fcuked by Sturm-Ruger either,
as IIRC, they (Ruger) fcuked us before (many years ago)
regarding magazine capacity.
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If you re-read it they cant do any thing about the other brands . The other brands are for rifles and manufactured for rifles ,it dont matter if they fit in the charger they were not made for it , same idea as the 10rd pistol mags for the AR pistol , it is what the mag is for not what it fits
 
camaross said:
Lets just have the 20 people that actually own a charger in Canada turn them in and then there will be no handguns in Canada that fit this magazine? LOL. I do't even see the point of a charger, big goofy looking handgun and can only be used at a range. Ruger would seriously sell millions of those magazines and I bet hardly sells any chargers in canada because of them being range only.
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Good way to look at it. I agree, bigger market for magazines vs smaller market for the Chargers in the Great White North.
 
RadMan said:
I'm not sure if that distinction will hold up. That being said, being a newbie to the firearms hobby should I avoid purchasing and using HiCap mags at the range due to this?
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You want to bet ? the LRA-15 are the perfect example . IT is what the magazine was made for ,NOT what it fits. The BC mags were made befor the charger came out and same with all the others and what were they made for ????? a 10/22 rifle Period , the charger was not out then . Ruger made the BX-25 and stated it was made for the charger and the 10/22. Same with the S&W they made the PISTOL and the Rifle , there for the mag they made would be limited to 10 rnds , but yet it is legal to use a the black dog 50 rd drum because it was made for the rifle.
 
1. Magazines designed or manufactured for both rimfire calibre rifles and handguns

Magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle do not have a regulated capacity. However, magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. Magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges.

Example:
Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 rifle and 15-22P pistol chambered for 22LR caliber:
•the 10 round magazine is unregulated
•the 25 round magazine is a prohibited device
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THE BC,ram line ,tac inc etc...... were not designed for the charger because it was not made when they came out ,clearly it was made for the 10/22 rifle .


4. Magazines designed for one firearm but used in a different firearm

The maximum permitted capacity of a magazine is determined by the kind of firearm it is designed or manufactured for use in and not the kind of firearm it might actually be used in. As a consequence, the maximum permitted capacity remains the same regardless of which firearm it might be used in.

Example:
The Marlin model 45 (Camp Carbine) rifle chambered for 45 Auto caliber uses magazines designed and manufactured for the Colt 1911 handgun, therefore the seven round and eight round capacities are permitted. A similar example is the 10 round capacity magazine for the Rock River Arms LAR-15 pistol, regardless of the kind of firearm it is actually used in.
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I really hope this clears this up to some people
 
BCboy said:
You want to bet ?
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Nope, not a betting man. I'll take your word for it... being a noob and all. But if I get my mags confiscated I'll know who to blame!;)

I take your point though, looking at both Butler Creek and Shooter's Ridge I see no mention of the mags being for the Charger, just the 10/22.
 
Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 rifle and 15-22P pistol chambered for 22LR caliber
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How come I don't see more of these around? Anyone have one?

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