Ruger Hawkeye vs Win 70 vs.......?

Ruger dropped the .260rem, so if that's your choice you might be to late. My wife has 2 of them, one compact and one soon to be compact. My wife also has a Remington 700 ADL in .270 but prefers the function of the Ruger. I like the .308 MKII M77.
 
Ya I see that, I should have grabbed that last one from Prophet before he sold out! Oh well I'm not stuck on 260, it would be just convenient because I already have all the loading gear from 260. But the more I look at the 7-08 the more I like it so might be time for a change!
 
The Mod 70 is machined from bar steel, the Ruger is investment cast, so is the Mod 70 stronger? In my opinion yes. I prefer the steel bottom metal on my Mod 70s to the pot metal of the Rugers and I prefer the classic stock c/w cheekpiece and better grade of walnut used in the Mod 70s. Virtually all the Mod 70s I have owned also outshoot Rugers by a significant margin. Most Rugers from the box are hard pressed to shoot into 1 1/2" @100 mtrs even with significant load development, with out bedding and tweeking and playing with forend pressure. Mod 70s have all been better groupers right from the box and respond to tweeking more readily to become easy sub MOA rifles (except for an old push feed Ftrwt I had in 257 Bob). Fully 1/2 of the Rugers I have owned and shot would not shoot sub MOA even after tweeking and bedding, while only one Mod 70 was so aberrant. Now I'm talking more than 1/2 doz of each in my experience, infact I own 3 Ruger CF rifles right now and have been playing with loads for them on and off and I also own 3 Mod 70s as I type this which I am also playing with loads for..........JMHE and YMMV

AND I still think the Remington is a better action and rifle!!!!!!!!!!!! But the new Mod 70 Super Grades are a photofinish close second.
 
c-fbmi said:
The Mod 70 is machined from bar steel, the Ruger is investment cast, so is the Mod 70 stronger? In my opinion yes. I prefer the steel bottom metal on my Mod 70s to the pot metal of the Rugers and I prefer the classic stock c/w cheekpiece and better grade of walnut used in the Mod 70s. Virtually all the Mod 70s I have owned also outshoot Rugers by a significant margin. Most Rugers from the box are hard pressed to shoot into 1 1/2" @100 mtrs even with significant load development, with out bedding and tweeking and playing with forend pressure. Mod 70s have all been better groupers right from the box and respond to tweeking more readily to become easy sub MOA rifles (except for an old push feed Ftrwt I had in 257 Bob). Fully 1/2 of the Rugers I have owned and shot would not shoot sub MOA even after tweeking and bedding, while only one Mod 70 was so aberrant. Now I'm talking more than 1/2 doz of each in my experience, infact I own 3 Ruger CF rifles right now and have been playing with loads for them on and off and I also own 3 Mod 70s as I type this which I am also playing with loads for..........JMHE and YMMV

AND I still think the Remington is a better action and rifle!!!!!!!!!!!! But the new Mod 70 Super Grades are a photofinish close second.
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Thanks for the input. The quality of the walnut does not mean much to me because I want a stainless synthetic but the rest is interesting info. Almost all my rifles are blued with walnut, I would like just one well rounded all weather rifle to take some abuse in crap weather.
 
All my Rugers are old 77s, they all shoot well. My 280v can do 1/2 in and my 243 is close. I had very good 5/8 groups with a 300 win. My Ruger #3s are about 1 inch rifles. I do not own a 70 any more, but did like both 375s I had. In my view, get what fits you best. A moose at 300 yds won't know the difference, and you probably won't either. Best of luck & good shooting.
 
If it's stainless synthetic you're looking for, then you'll want the Model 70 Extreme Weather Stainless Steel. That's about as rugged as you're going to get.
 
freddyfour said:
Thanks for the input. The quality of the walnut does not mean much to me because I want a stainless synthetic but the rest is interesting info. Almost all my rifles are blued with walnut, I would like just one well rounded all weather rifle to take some abuse in crap weather.
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Kinda like this old girl who's been over most of the world and just keeps on killing sh!t, new paint job every 10 years or so and a new recoil pad and she's like new again...........this is my old Rem 700, 300 Wby grafted into a Sako fiberglass stock from Brown Prec and Sako bottom metal.





And this is how she will shoot when I do my part..........

 
c-fbmi said:
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Kinda like this old girl who's been over most of the world and just keeps on killing sh!t, new paint job every 10 years or so and a new recoil pad and she's like new again...........this is my old Rem 700, 300 Wby grafted into a Sako fiberglass stock from Brown Prec and Sako bottom metal.





And this is how she will shoot when I do my part..........

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Yup that's the idea, wrong style action and more power then I want but then again I can always be swayed in another direction;)
 
c-fbmi said:
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Kinda like this old girl who's been over most of the world and just keeps on killing sh!t, new paint job every 10 years or so and a new recoil pad and she's like new again...........this is my old Rem 700, 300 Wby grafted into a Sako fiberglass stock from Brown Prec and Sako bottom metal.

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What those funny looking slots on the end of the barrel... ?
 
Them's called Magnaporting......the Canadian licensed guy in Winnipeg developed the 6 port and it works quite well and it ain't ugly. Doesn't really reduce recoil but redirects it and significantly reduces muzzle jump, making follow up shots very fast.
 
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