Ruger M77 MII Zytel Model - Love or Hate ?

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Crazy prices these days. Who has one and why your love affair ? Always figured they were pretty fugly myself. Couldn’t see the appeal of the hollowed out paddle for cheek weld. Pretty sure when they first came out they were including a free bowl of soup ;)
 
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The Mark II I owed was incredibly smooth. Also it was very accurate. Hard not to like a gun like that. Way nicer than the new Hawkeye production.
 
i have a 10-22, 77/22 and a 260 , the rimfires are awesome, the 260 I find the stock is skinny where you cheek goes so got to pay attention when getting on the gun compared to regular stock. Ruger is a workhorse and the stock is tough as nails a looks cool. I wouldn't want one in 300 mag though, might hurt a little lol.
 
i have a 10-22, 77/22 and a 260 , the rimfires are awesome, the 260 I find the stock is skinny where you cheek goes so got to pay attention when getting on the gun compared to regular stock. Ruger is a workhorse and the stock is tough as nails a looks cool. I wouldn't want one in 300 mag though, might hurt a little lol.
Funny you mention the 300. It isn't a lot of fun. The pad isn't much more than a flip flop. The triggers in these guns were also terrible. I swapped mine out for a Timney. Big improvement.

I bought mine in 1994.
 
I had an early model when they were transitioning from the tang safety to full CRF. Was in 270 and was a horrible thing to shoot. Narrow comb and rock hard butt, wouldn’t pay half what they sell for now.
 
Funny you mention the 300. It isn't a lot of fun. The pad isn't much more than a flip flop. The triggers in these guns were also terrible. I swapped mine out for a Timney. Big improvement.

I bought mine in 1994.
The Timney kit is great. It works with Mk IIs and Hawkeyes, and generally you can make two great triggers for two rifles with one kit. Timney trigger, sear and stock spring in one, and stock trigger, sear and Timney spring in another.
 
The Boat Paddle M77 Mark II rifles became popular and then desired for one reason only; they are tough. Many hunting guides and PH's used them because the stocks don't fail and are easy to maneuver in thick cover and tight terrain. The actions have just enough slop to function in dirty, gritty conditions, when you have been crawling on a stalk. The safety is positively off, at "rear", or safe but ready to flip off when at "mid." Mid also unlocks the bolt, while remaining on "safe" for worry-free loading and unloading... Something guides think about while watching new clients handle their rifles. I think alot of profile hunters experienced their guides carrying these rifles and started talking about them. These days, because we are 25 years or so removed from their production the demand far outweighs the supply... hence high prices. While I am a Ruger fan, I never really cared for the Zytel stocks, I had dozens of rifles that came with them, but sold off the stocks and replaced them with Ruger laminates or aftermarket stocks.
 
I would love to have one, then get some of the nice wood inlays I have seen for them. Something in 308, 7mm-08 or 280 Rem would be incredible to have. Likely a pipe dream at this point though.

Ruger does a lot of short runs, or distributer exclusives, I am surprised they haven't been pressured to doing a batch of these.
 
I hated them when they first came out but they ended up being my favourite hunting rifles. Currently I have a 22lr, 7.62x39, and a 300win. Better fit and finish than the later Hawkeye M77.
 
I had three of these, purchased together shortly after they came out, a .243, a .300WM and a .338WM. They were all the early MkII versions, with the three-position model70-style safety and the claw extractor but not CRF. Shortly thereafter, the Ruger MkII was modified to be a true CRF action, and I had a gunsmith machine the front of the bolts on the .300 and .338 to the new specs, an easy and inexpensive job that gave me CRF.

I liked those rifles, and used the .300 and .338 as my main hunting rifles for almost a decade. Those two were very accurate, the .300 in particular producing subMOA groups with virtually any load or bullet weight. Sadly, the .243 was much more difficult to love as it just didn't want to shoot for me with the heavier "deer" bullets and I soon moved it down the road.

Those three rifles were beautifully finished, way nicer than the several Ruger 77's I've owned and handled since (and don't even get me started on the Hawkeyes). They were very smooth cycling, although the triggers did indeed need replacement. I liked the feel of those stocks, and thought they seemed to ''give" with recoil somewhat as the guns were a bit softer shooting than others I had in those chamberings...but that might have just been good stock fit. They had those idiotic quasi-Euro-style sling loops on them, which I quickly replaced with the Williams' kits available at the time that fitted the stocks with standard sling studs for normal QD swivels. I also grabbed a couple sets of wooden inserts to replace the grooved plastic ones, but wound up breaking a couple of inserts while hunting and returned to the plastic ones.

Eventually I upgraded both the rifles to Boyd's laminate stocks, and frankly soon regretted it but too late; I had sold off the original paddle stocks and so they wore the Boyd's for several more years until I traded them off. I don't have any Ruger bolt guns nowadays; if I did, I'd be happy to have one of those old paddle stocks on it, but like so many other things that collectors latch onto, their market value is now so far beyond their intrinsic value that I'll never buy one.
 
Funny how lots of people say to love the canoe paddle. When I built my first .35 Whelen it was on an early stainless MKII .30-06 that came with a canoe paddle. I picked a different stock and put the canoe paddle on EE for $100. After a couple weeks with no bites I dropped it to $50. Its only after I marked for free that someone asked for it.
 
Funny how lots of people say to love the canoe paddle. When I built my first .35 Whelen it was on an early stainless MKII .30-06 that came with a canoe paddle. I picked a different stock and put the canoe paddle on EE for $100. After a couple weeks with no bites I dropped it to $50. Its only after I marked for free that someone asked for it.
I have sold many for $3-400... so there's that.
 
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