Ruger M77 MkII vs Ruger Hawkeye

I have had and do have both. For the most part the MkII is superior. My Hawkeye 300wm has excellent blueing, fit n finish, it was a gun show lottery prize, so it may have been a special edition.

The M77 is a under appreciated platform, undervalued in the EE. Excellent modified mauser action, easily hunting accurate, andlots of variations.
 
My hawkeye African feeds so smooth that I have actually on several occasions double checked to see if picked up a round after cycling the bolt.☺
 
hoytcanon said:
You were not wrong, they did make the smallest of changes, but the changes are virtually indistinguishable and would not be a factor in choosing one over the other.
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Welp, opinions differ and are not facts. The changes may not be a factor for you, but could well be an important consideration for someone else.
 
LittleBoyLefty said:
LOL. Maybe re-read your posts? Seems you state your opinion as fact? And... No 'sauce' here... yet. You? :p

Anyways, it's only the Innanet. Cheers.
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The only sauce this morning is black coffee... maybe you need to reread my post... I said that you were "NOT" wrong.

Not stating my opinion as fact... pointing out that the stock changes between the MKII and Hawkeye are minuscule and I am basing that on dozens (likely well over 100) of both rifles I have owned and shot and have had many others shoot at the range... nobody can detect a difference in side by side comparison... but they can see the difference in fit and finish, at least between the standard models. In reality, they are both solid, well made rifles that won't let you down in the field... I just prefer the MKII's.
 
hoytcanon said:
The only sauce this morning is black coffee... maybe you need to reread my post... I said that you were "NOT" wrong.

Not stating my opinion as fact... pointing out that the stock changes between the MKII and Hawkeye are minuscule and I am basing that on dozens (likely well over 100) of both rifles I have owned and shot and have had many others shoot at the range... nobody can detect a difference in side by side comparison... but they can see the difference in fit and finish, at least between the standard models. In reality, they are both solid, well made rifles that won't let you down in the field... I just prefer the MKII's.
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I don't own a MK11, but I love my Hawkeye to the moon and back.

It Started out as a .243 and is now a .308. Stainless Remington 10 twist barrel my dutch gunsmith sold me and installed cheap. Its ugly, but man it shoots ridiculously well and the action gives a guy the feeling that if you ran out of ammunition you could defend your life with it as a club.

HOYTCANON, I quoted your post because I just wanted to add, I have been on the brink of trying to make a deal with you on so many of your Rugers on EE im almost ashamed, Alas, I have a wedding coming up and first home stuff to deal with. One day, one day haha!!


Heres a Video of me hammering a mack truck of a bear with it this year at 430 yds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87uwq1EbL-U
 
micus said:
HOYTCANON, I quoted your post because I just wanted to add, I have been on the brink of trying to make a deal with you on so many of your Rugers on EE im almost ashamed, Alas, I have a wedding coming up and first home stuff to deal with. One day, one day haha!!
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Happy wife, happy life... ;)

Take care of home first, buddy!
 
LittleBoyLefty said:
LOL. Maybe re-read your posts? Seems you state your opinion as fact? And... No 'sauce' here... yet. You? :p

Anyways, it's only the Innanet. Cheers.
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I’ve probably missed half the conversation, but if we’re comparing MkII’s and Hawkeyes, yes the MkIIs are better finished and smoother rifles. I only own a Hawkeye now as the model I wanted (RSI SS .275 Rigby) only comes in it, it’s tougher and scratches brass on feeding badly but is young yet. Ten years from now in whomever’s hands own it, it should be where my old MkII started. Will spend some time with 1500 grit on the feed rails and ramp, and that should get it close.
 
biggest problem with either of them is that bell& Carlson doesn't make a synthetic stock for them. The other options for synthetic are so costly. Te finish on the mk11 is better but both seem to shoot really well.
 
Ardent said:
I’ve probably missed half the conversation, but if we’re comparing MkII’s and Hawkeyes, yes the MkIIs are better finished and smoother rifles. I only own a Hawkeye now as the model I wanted (RSI SS .275 Rigby) only comes in it, it’s tougher and scratches brass on feeding badly but is young yet. Ten years from now in whomever’s hands own it, it should be where my old MkII started. Will spend some time with 1500 grit on the feed rails and ramp, and that should get it close.
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Just me and Hoyt splitting hairs, as CGNers tend to do. ;) I mentioned the changes to the stock from MII to HE. I liked the changes, Hoyt doesn’t care or feel they’re noticeable.

Totally agree with you on the metal work differences. I’ve owned a couple of each, and while they shot well and worked just fine, the Hawkeyes took a while longer to smooth out. I wanted to like the matte finishes on the HE, but they aren’t very durable. Never cared for the shiny stainless on the MII, but that was easily fixed with a little bead blasting.

I really like the M77. It’s a good, solid design. Simple- something I appreciate in a firearm. All this talk about them makes that LH SS MII 3o-o6 on the EE call my name even louder. 🙂
 
grit said:
biggest problem with either of them is that bell& Carlson doesn't make a synthetic stock for them. The other options for synthetic are so costly. Te finish on the mk11 is better but both seem to shoot really well.
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That’s a shame. They used to offer stocks for them. Even in LH. I’d guess the demand isn’t there anymore since Ruger seems to have thinned the M77 product line down some.
 
This thread really makes me want to handle a MkII. Never have, I feel like ive been living in a fools paradise thinking my little Hawkeye was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I cant see a guy going wrong with either model, the M77 is just an awesome action. I can regularly bean a guy 4 benches over with ejected brass- Winning!
 
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