Ruger Mini-14 WTF!

Never mind the price of Rugers! ....have you seen the price of Savages lately? Axis xp II are like 600.00, 111's are like 800.00-900.00
 
$1,200 to $1,300 seems to be the going rate of minis these days. Low dollar and revamped with an improved, thicker barrel, etc. Sale prices seem to be in the $1,000 to $1,100 range. A non-sale price of a norinco m305 seems to be about $700 these days and has a reputation of needing some work after ...... so, maybe it’s a sign of the times.

Minis on the EE seem to have about a $1,000 asking price.
 
Our dollar tanked, I got mine on the ee for $800ish, I got my sr1911 and gp100(when I had it) for near half what they sell new now.
Difference between selling old stock that was bought at dollar on par vs dealers buying them now with the low dollar.

Poorly accurate minis are a thing of the past, but they're still over gassed af

Honestly torn now I have a 180c, I'd like to keep them both, but I might have to ditch one to free up some money.
 
hawk-i said:
Never mind the price of Rugers! ....have you seen the price of Savages lately? Axis xp II are like 600.00, 111's are like 800.00-900.00
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I've been watching Tikka's $ climb, but with Tikkas...at least I know I'm likely to get a great...accurate rifle. I have nothing against the Axis rifles, but I bought my Accustock Savage 10 Precision Carbine for $799 maybe 7-8 years ago. 10x the gun the Axis is, at least in my opinion. It's why I'm likely to never sell that rifle. Not a huge fan of it, but no getting away from the great trigger and stellar accuracy. I think at the stage I am in life...there is likely to be less buying, and more "holding onto". lol

Ruger~other than the 22LR pistol I might buy one day, there isn't anything Ruger makes that is a huge temptation for me. I really like the #1s (haven't shot one) and once in a while...an RPR is a slight temptation. The only Ruger I owned was a 10/22. I've never owned a gun for so little time. Most inaccurate gun I've ever used, with the worst trigger, barrel crooked...you had to turn the gun (or your head) 10 degrees to shoot it with the irons. POS, even after I scoped it.
 
hoytcanon said:
I don't agree... I am still buying them, and so are a lot of others, as Ruger is doing better business than most of the major manufacturers... the reason that people are paying the increased cost is that Ruger M77's and No.1's represent solid quality and good value... so you are actually getting something for your money, compared to the $1000 junk flooding the market. Ask yourself; "Would I rather pay $1000 for a piece of crap, or $1500 for a quality rifle." Partially the cost increases are the result of Ruger stepping into the low end market to put out products that compete with other manufacturers... once the price point was established for the American line, there needed to be some disparity between them and the higher end lines of the M77 and No.1's, which opened a laneway for Ruger to increase the suggested retail amounts... for us in Canada, our weak dollar over the past couple years really kicked us in the nads too...
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Interesting.

I mean, im either spending the 2k on a nice rifle or just 100% cheaping out and picking up a savage for 400 bucks. I usually dont float to much in the middle.

I see the m77 go for $1,169.00 with stainless and wood. The base with a HOUGE stock goes for 799 I see at one dealer.

Tikkas are usually a bit lower for the basic lites. Round $900

Weatherbys are about $800

So I dont think they have much difference. I would go with weatherby because I like their triggers. If I had 800 for a rifle. Then a tikka for weight if I wanted it light.

The ruger just seems to not have a feature that appeals to me. They all will shoot 1 moa, they all will have what I can see the same standard of quality (at the 800-1200 price point).

They just seem super basic.
 
.22LRGUY said:
I've been watching Tikka's $ climb, but with Tikkas...at least I know I'm likely to get a great...accurate rifle. I have nothing against the Axis rifles, but I bought my Accustock Savage 10 Precision Carbine for $799 maybe 7-8 years ago. 10x the gun the Axis is, at least in my opinion. It's why I'm likely to never sell that rifle. Not a huge fan of it, but no getting away from the great trigger and stellar accuracy. I think at the stage I am in life...there is likely to be less buying, and more "holding onto". lol

Ruger~other than the 22LR pistol I might buy one day, there isn't anything Ruger makes that is a huge temptation for me. I really like the #1s (haven't shot one) and once in a while...an RPR is a slight temptation. The only Ruger I owned was a 10/22. I've never owned a gun for so little time. Most inaccurate gun I've ever used, with the worst trigger, barrel crooked...you had to turn the gun (or your head) 10 degrees to shoot it with the irons. POS, even after I scoped it.
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Why are you talking about 10/22's?
 
Canadiankeeper said:
Interesting.

I mean, im either spending the 2k on a nice rifle or just 100% cheaping out and picking up a savage for 400 bucks. I usually dont float to much in the middle.

I see the m77 go for $1,169.00 with stainless and wood. The base with a HOUGE stock goes for 799 I see at one dealer.

Tikkas are usually a bit lower for the basic lites. Round $900

Weatherbys are about $800

So I dont think they have much difference. I would go with weatherby because I like their triggers. If I had 800 for a rifle. Then a tikka for weight if I wanted it light.

The ruger just seems to not have a feature that appeals to me. They all will shoot 1 moa, they all will have what I can see the same standard of quality (at the 800-1200 price point).

They just seem super basic.
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You mean they are a stick of metal in a stick of wood that go "bang"... imagine that.
 
grelmar said:
It's more than that. In the US, a Mini-14 goes for close to $1K. Even Ruger sells cheaper AR's than Mini-14's. Part of the whole point of the Mini was to be an economical substitute for an AR. Ruger has lost the plot.

https://www.cabelas.com/catalog/browse/semiautomatic-centerfire-rifles/_/N-1114861/Ns-CATEGORY_SEQ_105524280?&CQ_ref=~brand-Ruger&CQ_ztype=GNU
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Bud's Gun shop and sportman's guide has blued models for $750 and stainless is $850USD. Entry level AR15's are cheaper to manufacture than a Mini-14, there's no way around that. The mini-14 was designed as a smaller, lower cost version of the M14...Using casting for the receiver and trigger group parts for lower machining costs. Forgotten weapons just did an episode on this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxLrz1vTloI
 
I don't recall the Mini being touted as an AR-fighter when it was introduced; I was just getting my driver's licence at that time, and the then-new Mini was one of the few things that distracted me slightly from girls. The AR was not the object of blind cult adoration then that it is today; the Mini was aimed at folks who admired the Garand and M14. I'm not sure if that constitutes a "plot".
 
Ruger fooked up on the Mini 14 concept bigtime. All they had to do was make a slightly enlarged M1 carbine action with it's short stroke piston setup, but nope, they had to make a bastardized copy of an M14 with that shyte, clamp-on gas block & gas tube assembly. I bought one new in '77 and although it cycled ok, it was a rattle trap that was piss poor for accuracy & the ergonomics, sights & trigger were definitely not for me. Didn't keep that one long fer sure.
 
Once you have mini fever its hard to shake. Non restricted, compact, reliable, heck of a lot of fun to shoot.....Sure its expensive but man people are dropping wads of cash on AR and other platforms that they can't even take out in the bush and hunt or plink with.
Check out this review and comparison....very informative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fk84KLiaa4
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
Ruger fooked up on the Mini 14 concept bigtime. All they had to do was make a slightly enlarged M1 carbine action with it's short stroke piston setup, but nope, they had to make a bastardized copy of an M14 with that shyte, clamp-on gas block & gas tube assembly. I bought one new in '77 and although it cycled ok, it was a rattle trap that was piss poor for accuracy & the ergonomics, sights & trigger were definitely not for me. Didn't keep that one long fer sure.
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Um... both the M1 Carbine and M14 use short stroke pistons. The Mini's gas system resembles neither.
 
It's 2018...and you can get an absolutely reliable, non-restricted semi-auto .223 for under a grand. Magazines are available everywhere, accuracy is on par or better than most of the black rifles out there that cost a lot more. Even comes in stainless if you want. It's lightweight, handles well, strips down easily, is easily scoped...and yet the haters keep on hating, based on the bad experience that their mailman's cousin's next-door-neighbour said they had with the older version of the gun, thirty years ago, using the cheapest ammunition they could find. "WTF??? No ten-round mags?? I CAN'T SHOOT THIS!!!!" :rolleyes:
 
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