Ruger Mk III vs Browning Buckmark

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now I know this question must get asked a lot, but my inquiry is about the maintenance of these two pistols.

I'm told and have read again and again that the Ruger is PITA to take down while the Buckmark is easy as pie. My friend in Florida who's has both and kept the Buckmark swears this too.

...and then I watched these two disassembly videos and honestly, it makes me wonder. you can take the Ruger down without any tools whatsoever, while the browning needs a screwdriver and an allen key. having to use tools sure seems to be the more finicky and harder to do option than a tool-less one.

please weigh in on this....

why does Ruger have such a bad name for disassembly compared to the Browning?


 
Screwdriver and allen key can be kept in a range box. Computer with internet or video explaining disassemble takes up more room.:rolleyes:
 
taking the Ruger apart has so few steps, I would counter that it's more intuitive to disassemble than the Browning.

honestly, I'm really confused how a tool-less 5 step disassembly process could be more complex than having to have access to multiple tools and a lil cup to make sure you don't lose any bits.

I guess my real question should have been, "how did Ruger get this bad name for these pistols when it's obviously untrue?"
 
I've also had both and kept the Ruger because I feel it's better built. The difficulty of the Ruger isn't taking it apart it's putting it back together. Personally I don't think it's that hard to put back together if you've done it a few times. Besides, the ruger will run pretty well dirty so it's not as if you need to clean it after each use. Maybe after 1500 rounds or more you can take totally apart.
 
I like what you're saying here...especially so being I think the Ruger is the nicer looking out of the two.

I've also had both and kept the Ruger because I feel it's better built. The difficulty of the Ruger isn't taking it apart it's putting it back together. Personally I don't think it's that hard to put back together if you've done it a few times. Besides, the ruger will run pretty well dirty so it's not as if you need to clean it after each use. Maybe after 1500 rounds or more you can take totally apart.
 
+1 to all the above. The Ruger is a great pistol, and while re-assembly has some quirks, they're not too difficult to figure out. I will say that reassembly is not as intuitive as other guns however.
 
+1 to all the above. The Ruger is a great pistol, and while re-assembly has some quirks, they're not too difficult to figure out. I will say that reassembly is not as intuitive as other guns however.

i agree with this. My first pistol many years ago was a Ruger Mk 1. I took it apart & like others, I could not get it
back together. The mentioned " quirks " can prevent it going back together. Once you know how to do it,
then it is easy.
I have a Buckmark & IMO opinion, once it is apart then it is quite easy to figure out how it goes back together.
 
I don't doubt that...anything with practice becomes easy. I just don't see how something that uses a tool-less 5 step process to disassemble could ever have gotten the bad rap it has, when the Buckmark requires a minimum of two tools (screwdriver & allen key) and would take longer than the Ruger to break down.

that said, having to pull the trigger for he Ruger to come apart was just a bad idea. I can see their reasoning, 'you're taking apart a gun, so it shouldn't have ammunition in the chamber'...but still.

i agree with this. My first pistol many years ago was a Ruger Mk 1. I took it apart & like others, I could not get it
back together. The mentioned " quirks " can prevent it going back together. Once you know how to do it,
then it is easy.
I have a Buckmark & IMO opinion, once it is apart then it is quite easy to figure out how it goes back together.
 
I heard a lot of people saying how hard it was to take apart the Rugers but after recently purchasing a 22/45 its simply not the case. I was shocked how easy it was to disassemble, maybe I lucked out an got a good one but no mallet or anything was needed. I put in the Volquartsen target trigger, sear, and hammer bushing which was a little bit tricky but for regular cleaning its really a joke that people are complaining about it.
 
From what I read in this thread, OP has problem using tools. My suggestion would be to actually takedown and put together a Ruger and then do thevsame with a Buckmark. After you are finished then tell everyone which one is easier. If ease of takedown is your main criteria to differentiate between firearms, try the Beretta Neos. If you can get over the space gun looks, you will find a very reliable and accyrate pistol.
 
My MKIII was difficult to take apart at first because I didn't know how to take it apart combined with it not being broken in. Right now I am at the point where I can take it apart with a paperclip, usually without the use of a rubber mallet.
 
I have a 22/45 and the first few times taking it apart to clean it, I had to grab the manual to get it back together.

Now I get it. And its easy.
 
Does anyone have experience with this kit?
h t t p://www.majesticarms.com/id10.html

I've read that it makes stripping the Rugers a piece of cake.
 
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I do not have problems using tools. I was just confounded that the Ruger has such a bad rep for disassembly. as the video's show, it's the Browning that's more finicky.

I've actually just gotten some advice that you should not tear down the pistol too often. If you do, the pins wear the holes and then you'll suffer from a loose barrel and lose your accuracy. The trick is to remove the bolt and then clean the bolt and barrel. That MajesticArm's Ruger kit looks good. You can get it on Dante Sports in Canada, dantesports.com, as Majestic doesn't ship internationally at this time.
From what I read in this thread, OP has problem using tools. My suggestion would be to actually takedown and put together a Ruger and then do thevsame with a Buckmark. After you are finished then tell everyone which one is easier. If ease of takedown is your main criteria to differentiate between firearms, try the Beretta Neos. If you can get over the space gun looks, you will find a very reliable and accyrate pistol.
 
Does anyone have experience with this kit?
h t t p://www.majesticarms.com/id10.html

I've read that it makes stripping the Rugers a piece of cake.

I have it on my MKIII and it does make bolt removal a breeze. And this is as far as you need to go for regular cleaning. It is not necessary to remove the upper on a regular basis. Ever wonder why you need a rubber mallet to take it apart and put it together. It is because it is suppose to fit tight. Ever wonder why it gets easier and easier to do this over time. It is because you are wearing out the locking lugs. There are at least 3 people on this forum that I have talked to whose Rugers are shot because of this. The accuracy gets gradually worse because the fit gets sloppy. All you need to clean regularly is the bolt and barrel. And with this kit it is just a matter of turning the new bolt pin with the supplied allen key, pull the pin and pull the bolt. I got this info from a Ruger tech at a gun show. He said only take the upper off rarely or if you have a problem. If he were going to lie, it would be to take it off more often to wear it out to sell more guns. He says they get calls all the time from people whose Rugers are literally falling apart from this. Call them to confirm this, it's toll free.
 
Both good guns, solid and stable platform. Cleaning my Browning Buckmark Contour, all I need is a can of Remington Action Cleaner (or similar) and your favorite CLP. Remove grips, tape some moving parts, open the action, spray generously until anything that drips becomes clear. Let dry, wipe excess dirt/grime, spray lightly for a final clean and let dry. CLP to lube and finish coat. Replace the grip panels. I am pretty sure this procedure will also do for a Ruger Mk III.
 
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