Ruger P85

Blackthorne

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Sorry guys, a search on P85 turns up nothing, and a search on Ruger turns up 911 hits. :D

Any opinions on this gun? I bought one today REALLY cheap, couldn't pass it up, but I wonder if anyone has some feedback.

In the mean time...I start at number 910 LOL
 
Try P85 MkII, lots of hits with that search. Same pistol, all early P85's were recalled and the mod was done to them which makes them P85 MkII's.

It was a recall for the safety or something like that. You can identify if the mod was done by the safety, it's marked MkII on the lever.

Check out the Ruger site for all the info, mod is done for free.
 
I've owned two, one this side of the 49th and one on the other side...

No problems...

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I have had one for years. Being a Ruger man I had to have one of Bill Ruger's first semi-auto centerfires. They are very reliable; as accurate as many other more expensive 9mms. It doesn't seem to care what kind of ammo you put through it. It all feeds reliably, jacketed or lead; factory or reloads.

They aren't perfect either. I have never cared for the safety. You have to push it up to take it off. I prefer the Colt "wipe down"/safety off action. Also, that first double action shot takes forever. It is incredibly robust, a great first gun to learn on. I wouldn't recommend it for IPSC.
 
Rugerman said:
I wouldn't recommend it for IPSC.
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LOL.
I did my black badge course in '93 with my P85. I barely squeaked thru, wish I had my 1911 back then.
This is the first I have heard about the recall. I will have to look into getting the mod done.
Blackthorne, my P85 has been very reliable. It will eat any 9mm ammo I feed it without failure. The only mods to it are a set of Uncle Mikes rubber grips and the mags restricted to 10 rounds:mad: .

Cheers!
Ted
 
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Thanks guys!

I really appreciate the input.

And just for the record I think I ma a Fugy Gun Lover, 'casue the only two I own so far are and SKS-D and this here P85!

Ah well, I have a hot wife to make up for it! :D
 
TFunfer said:
LOL.
I did my black badge course in '93 with my P85. I barely squeaked thru, wish I had my 1911 back then.
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What does the gun have to do with the course? If you barely sqeaked through the course, it had to do with who is holding the gun, not the gun. Thats like blaming the car you were driving at a high rate of speed and crashing because you didn't have the ability to drive it safely....If I was now driving a high end sports car, would I have crashed? The skills and abilities would still be lacking....99 out of a 100, the guns shoot fine, the problem lies with the 'trigger puller'....


TFunfer said:
This is the first I have heard about the recall. I will have to look into getting the mod done.
Blackthorne, my P85 has been very reliable. It will eat any 9mm ammo I feed it without failure. The only mods to it are a set of Uncle Mikes rubber grips and the mags restricted to 10 rounds:mad: .

Cheers!
Ted
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The safety recall has been in place for ages, there is no date on the recall notice that i see, but it has been awhile. I totally agree with it's eating habits, it will eat any ammunition that I have fed it, with one advantage, it eats it all, FLAWLESSLY....and as someone else mentioned, it may not win any beauty pagents, but it is built well. Remember that this handgun was built MilSpec...
 
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Blackthorne,
Just so you know: There is no charge for the mod on the P85 safety. I have had mine for a very long time and just found out about the recall this winter. The Ruger warranty depot in Montreal did it free of charge. As someone mentioned, the mod shows up on the safety.
 
echo4lima said:
What does the gun have to do with the course? If you barely sqeaked through the course, it had to do with who is holding the gun, not the gun. Thats like blaming the car you were driving at a high rate of speed and crashing because you didn't have the ability to drive it safely....If I was now driving a high end sports car, would I have crashed? The skills and abilities would still be lacking....99 out of a 100, the guns shoot fine, the problem lies with the 'trigger puller'....
I love my Rugers, all of them. I won one of the first IPSC shoots in Kamloops with my P85 a long time ago. But taking a P85 to an IPSC match is like taking a 4x4 to a Grand Prix race. You can do your best but it just isn't suited to that kind of shooting event. I don't care how good the guy behind the trigger is, you are severly limiting yourself with a P85 when it comes to what is required to be competitive in IPSC.
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Rugerman said:
Blackthorne,
Just so you know: There is no charge for the mod on the P85 safety. I have had mine for a very long time and just found out about the recall this winter. The Ruger warranty depot in Montreal did it free of charge. As someone mentioned, the mod shows up on the safety.
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I believe this one has the mod already,but just out of curiosity..

What was the problem the Mod fixed?

Just in case the mod HASN'T been applied, I want to know how to handle the gun safely by knowing what the "failure" is.
 
The problem as I recall is that it could break the firing pin while decocking it and the "floating " broken part of the firing pin " could " impact the primer causing a discharge .
I agree with Rugerman about the P85 in IPSC competition but...
Echo4lima is right ,The IPSC black badge coarse is about safety , not speed in competition . There is nothing wrong with this pistol for your black badge .
As for the P85 , It's a good solid pistol ( to bulky ) with a poor trigger and a lousy magazine release ( for competition ) and has a great price point - IMO
 
echo4lima said:
What does the gun have to do with the course? If you barely sqeaked through the course, it had to do with who is holding the gun, not the gun. Thats like blaming the car you were driving at a high rate of speed and crashing because you didn't have the ability to drive it safely....If I was now driving a high end sports car, would I have crashed? The skills and abilities would still be lacking....99 out of a 100, the guns shoot fine, the problem lies with the 'trigger puller'....
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echo4lima,
There is no doubt that my skill with a pistol in those days was lacking. It was my first handgun and I didn't have a whole lot of experience with it when I attended the course(I was in college and the only reason I bought it was, it was cheap and it got me started). But when the instructor let me try his 1911 in .38 Super the difference for me was night and day. The 1911 just fits my hands a lot better. And the trigger... well no comparison!
Now I agree that the shooter is mostly to blame for poor performance. But even though today I am a lot better with it, my P85 is the last pistol I would take to a match. My 1911 or Glock 20 were always first and second choice.

Cheers!
 
TFunfer said:
echo4lima,
There is no doubt that my skill with a pistol in those days was lacking. It was my first handgun and I didn't have a whole lot of experience with it when I attended the course(I was in college and the only reason I bought it was, it was cheap and it got me started). But when the instructor let me try his 1911 in .38 Super the difference for me was night and day. The 1911 just fits my hands a lot better. And the trigger... well no comparison!
Now I agree that the shooter is mostly to blame for poor performance. But even though today I am a lot better with it, my P85 is the last pistol I would take to a match. My 1911 or Glock 20 were always first and second choice.

Cheers!
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I don't doubt it or you, my point is blaming a gun for you barely making the grade is silly....It's not the gun that caused you to barely squeak by...remember that...
 
Hey Blackthorne, congratulations on your first pistol. You'll have fun with the P85. I saw those @ william's and I thought they were a good deal. There's no dought that the long trigger is a dissadvantage against a 1911, but with practice you will shoot as well as anyone else in PRODUCTION class. Its all about how well you can control the gun. I classified as a B class in an IPSC qualifier with my P85. Currently, I use my Ruger P345 in ipsc production. It has a faster trigger than the old P series and with it's excellent ergonomics, I can compete quite well. For only 400$ , you've got a gun that will last many thousands of trouble free rounds I'm sure. You can phone Ruger and they'll trace the serial# and tell you if the safety has been fixed or not. Enjoy.
 
I have a P-85 MK2 stainless, but if I had to chose what to take in combat, it would be my Norinco NP22. Feels better and much more accurate...
 
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