I started with a Bushnell AR LPVO 1-4 and the mount from my AR as well. That added 2 pounds on a 7 pound rifle! I got tired of dragging this 9 pound combo around so I switched to a cheapo red dot and voila, much more fun to use as long as I don't need to shoot past 60 yards. For longer shots, I can also put the the LPVO back on.