Ruger PC experience

GunNoob123 said:
so its better to buy a 17 round glock magul pinned to 10 rounds instead of a 10 round glock magpul?

i only see 10 round ruger OEM mags. Are those hard to load?
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There are pros and cons to Glock OEM magazines vs. Magpul GL9 magazines. Both manufacturers produce both 10/10 and 10/17 formats for the Glock 17 length grip (the firearm they are designed for).

I prefer 10/17 magazines to 10/10 magazines, regardless of manufacturer. There's always a compromise though: The riveted 10/17 magazines are usually more difficult to completely disassemble (though many people never do this, so it doesn't matter to them).

I have no experience with the Ruger magazines, sorry.
 
GunNoob123 said:
so its better to buy a 17 round glock magul pinned to 10 rounds instead of a 10 round glock magpul?

i only see 10 round ruger OEM mags. Are those hard to load?
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i had the 10 rd OEM for a month and now use the magpul 10 rd
They were both equally hard to load so i got an uplula mag loader

I went to glock purely for price!
 
Canuck44 said:
No the gun has a bolt release button as do every other gun I have seen that holds the bolt back after the last shot is fired. After you inset a loaded mag in the gun you can either hit the release button or pull the charging handle back. The bolt release button is on the left side of the gun and for competitors it is faster to hit the button then it is to pull the charging handle back. Competitors hold the gun in their right hand if they are right handed, insert the mag and simply hit the button as the gun is brought back to the firing position. It is faster and that is the reason competitors use this method. If it was slower than they would use the charging handle. You can buy after market buttons that are larger if you want to and I think most shooters do who use the Ruger PCC in competitions.

Take Care

Bob
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Bob are you and Iron Sighted talking about the same thing here?

I think you are referring to the FX9 but Iron Sighted is talking about the PC Carbine.

I just broke my PC Carbine out of the safe and look a look at it. As far as I can tell since day one, when the bolt hold open is activated, the only way to release it is via pulling the charging handle. I don't see a bolt release button. Other than the mag release button on the left hand side and the cross bolt safety, I don't see any other buttons on the other side (or anywhere else) that would release a locked back bolt, on the PC Carbine. It's very possible there is something here I don't know about.
 
Iron Sighted said:
... I'd hope that beyond the Ruger that any company that designs a bolt hold open feature would also intergrate a release button.
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It's relatively difficult to get a bolt release to work well in straight blowback firearms, they are not as common as those without. The new S&W FPC has one, for example, but reviews so far say that it works poorly or flat out doesn't work.

On the Ruger PCC, the factory part is a bolt stop. The only way to release the bolt is with the charging handle.

Can the aftermarket extended bolt stops for the Ruger be used to release the bolt?
 
Jmcc said:
i had the 10 rd OEM for a month and now use the magpul 10 rd
They were both equally hard to load so i got an uplula mag loader

I went to glock purely for price!
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Did you have any issues with the last round bolt hold open on the 10 round Glock Magpul?
 
thegazelle said:
Bob are you and Iron Sighted talking about the same thing here?

I think you are referring to the FX9 but Iron Sighted is talking about the PC Carbine.

I just broke my PC Carbine out of the safe and look a look at it. As far as I can tell since day one, when the bolt hold open is activated, the only way to release it is via pulling the charging handle. I don't see a bolt release button. Other than the mag release button on the left hand side and the cross bolt safety, I don't see any other buttons on the other side (or anywhere else) that would release a locked back bolt, on the PC Carbine. It's very possible there is something here I don't know about.
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Ok, so I'm not crazy then. Haha, I had to go and pull my Ruger PCC out of the safe as well after I got home yesterday and check it out, and I also could not find any bolt release aside from the charging handle.

I think we must have been discussing different guns inadvertently.
 
so my special package arrived today :)

i placed the empty OEM ruger mag in and i couldnt close the bolt. is this the feature of the last round hold open?
 
There are times when you just to say your getting stupid as you age. There is no release button on my Ruger. Time to book myself into a home.

My apologies.
Take Care
Bob
 
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Canuck44 said:
There are times when you just to say your getting stupid as you age. There is no release button on my Ruger. Time to book myself into a home.

My apologies.
Take Care
Bob
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Bob, if you are booking yourself into a home, reserve me a spot as well... If I had a dime for everytime I had a mental or memory lapse, I wouldn't have to work and be on the Freedom 85 plan.
 
alpining if loss of memory was the only aging loss I would be a happy camper, if you get my drift! LOL. But we digress..

The Ruger PCC is a quality product that does a lot of things well. I would never claim it is best in class on any one task but does most I can think of very well. eg. It is not a target rifle but it is more accurate than most shooters who buy the gun. Dependability is a go, no go, a gun is dependable or it isn't. The Ruger is dependable. There you go, just my experience that seems to be shared by guys who own and shoot them.

Take Care
Bob
 
Haha, I hear you! Don't worry, I'm getting a healthy dose of those age-related losses you speak of...

Agreed: While it's not perfect and it's not for everyone, the Ruger PCC is clearly the best choice for most buyers, here and now.

I do hope that Ruger will improve it, and I hope other manufacturers will come to the market with some better alternatives.
 
alpining said:
Haha, I hear you! Don't worry, I'm getting a healthy dose of those age-related losses you speak of...

Agreed: While it's not perfect and it's not for everyone, the Ruger PCC is clearly the best choice for most buyers, here and now.

I do hope that Ruger will improve it, and I hope other manufacturers will come to the market with some better alternatives.
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On that note I am looking forward to seeing how the S&W FCC and the Kodiak Defense offerings work out. Both are on my "want" list right now. I may have to rid myself of a couple of long guns that I have not used in a few years. She who knows best has made it pretty clear buying another gun safe is not in my future. Watch the EE for some decent deals on a couple of shotguns and maybe a rifle or two.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
alpining if loss of memory was the only aging loss I would be a happy camper, if you get my drift! LOL. But we digress..

The Ruger PCC is a quality product that does a lot of things well. I would never claim it is best in class on any one task but does most I can think of very well. eg. It is not a target rifle but it is more accurate than most shooters who buy the gun. Dependability is a go, no go, a gun is dependable or it isn't. The Ruger is dependable. There you go, just my experience that seems to be shared by guys who own and shoot them.

Take Care
Bob
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thats what made me choose it as my first gun

Thanks everyone for bearing with my stupid questions
 
Canuck44 said:
Now save up for a base model 10/22 and you will be set.

Take Care

Bob
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so only have space for 2 guns max, in that situation would you still recommend a 22LR?

i was thinking about a SKS or a 12 gauge shotgun as my second gun. reason why i didnt get those as my first gun was that i didnt know if i could handle the recoil.
 
GunNoob123 said:
so only have space for 2 guns max, in that situation would you still recommend a 22LR?

i was thinking about a SKS or a 12 gauge shotgun as my second gun. reason why i didnt get those as my first gun was that i didnt know if i could handle the recoil.
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I think a .22 is well suited for anyone, anytime. There are lots of advantages of a .22.

And SKS and 12ga are good choices too, but in view, not for a first gun. For the SKS, unless you know they pretty well, it is hit and miss the quality of one that you may get. You may get one, which, like I got before where the firing pin was completely seized and so was the sear (reset stopped working after one shot). Thankfully I knew enough to check the firing pin as it would have been a guaranteed slamfire (it was seized so bad I had to use pliers to pull it out of its channel and that was after the retaining pin was already removed - it was caked with gun almost like dried brown sugar and sludge and super glue all mixed together).

For the 12ga if you are already thinking about recoil, why not try a 20 gauge first. A 20 gauge Rem 870 Express was my first shotgun and statistically you are much more likely to be taller and bigger than me, so maybe a 12ga would be fine for you but if you have apprehension, try a 20 ga. OR get a semi auto gas or inertia driven 12ga. Felt recoil would be reduced dramatically, and unless your range is like mine and slugs only you may be able to have even a more gentle shooting experience with lighter 12ga loads.

The reason why many people, including me, suggest the .22LR is it is non-existent recoil, cheap ammo, which lends to more frequent shooting and more practice, and is a great platform for learning fundamentals. It is also fairly easy to get a decently accurate .22LR which will no doubt inspire you to continue to shoot, which will help you improve your skills, discipline and accuracy. 22 rifles are also relatively affordable. If you want something semi auto, a 10/22 would be decent or if you don't mind all the plastic, a GSG-16 is a hoot too. But honestly, I have become quite enamored with the bolt action .22s. They are very satisfying to shoot and all my kids leaned towards my cheapie bolt action Savage, over the more modern looking semi auto black guns.
 
GunNoob123 said:
so only have space for 2 guns max, in that situation would you still recommend a 22LR?

i was thinking about a SKS or a 12 gauge shotgun as my second gun. reason why i didnt get those as my first gun was that i didnt know if i could handle the recoil.
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Where in Ontario do you live? Do you go camping in the summer. Do you do most of your shooting at a range (indòrs or outdoors.)
For a bolt action look at the CZ line. I grew up in Alberta. Where the Coey Model 30 was every kids dream rifle. My oldest owns my Sureshot and last year I found alike new Model 30 for my Grandson. The old Model 30 is an adult sized gun and will shoot gophers with the best of them. Lol. I digress.

I don't own a Ruger 10/22, but certainly would recommend one. For pli king pop cans to taking rabbits and squirrels the base model with a polymer stock is a good start. The Ruger comes in so many versions I am sure there is one for any situation. Don't be afraid to follow the EE, there are good buys to be had if you take your time.
Only two rifles get a 22lr.
Take Care
Bob
 
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