Ruger PCC long distance?

We’ve tried making hits at 430yds with an ASR. Holding the same POA it comes down 8’ either side of the gong. The vertical spread is maybe a couple feet but windage is all over the place.

It’s roughly comparable to 22lr at long range.
 
I shoot at 100m with 9mm regularly... no issues on a 10 inch gong...

I usually shoot at 2/3 ipsc targets... at 200m is a bit challanging but i get about %80 hits off a bench... 300 is very difficult and more luck....

The bigest issue i have is vertical stringing... the velocity swings in 9mm are pretty bad in the masss manufactured ammo and it becomes very apparent past 100m , combined with the predictability of the windage going to #### past 200m as well it basically just peppering the area of the target looking for a lucky hit.


9mm is not the round to shoot things that go boom with... where it has the power and accuarcy to make such hits as to set it off... its to close to be safe...
 
Weigh your bullets and accurately measure a slightly compressed load of VV 3N38 over CCI 550s.
That should reduce your vertical stringing a tad.
Make sure you have a heavy bolt with a strong recoil spring (like the Tandemkross red spring in the Ruger) if you don't want out of battery case ruptures.
 
Bubba Yugga said:
Weigh your bullets and accurately measure a slightly compressed load of VV 3N38 over CCI 550s.
That should reduce your vertical stringing a tad.
Make sure you have a heavy bolt with a strong recoil spring (like the Tandemkross red spring in the Ruger) if you don't want out of battery case ruptures.
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I havnt reloaded 9mm ever... Just not worth it when priners have been a buck a piece for years
 
Bubba Yugga said:
Weigh your bullets and accurately measure a slightly compressed load of VV 3N38 over CCI 550s.
That should reduce your vertical stringing a tad.
Make sure you have a heavy bolt with a strong recoil spring (like the Tandemkross red spring in the Ruger) if you don't want out of battery case ruptures.
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Good advice when doing up loads for accuracy. I do that for my 50y PPC loads. This box of 1k 115gr 9mm bullets turned out pretty good, but I've had some from other manufacturers where the avg deviation for weight variance was not bad, but there'd be 4-6 in that batch that were 2-3grs under.
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B said:
Of all the pointless things I have ever done weighing out pistol bullets has never been one of them.
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I don't do this for IPSC and plinking rounds, but for 50 yard PPC stages, it makes a difference. I test those loads using my ransom rest and it's definitely one of the factors in developing a load that will group 2" at 50 yards. I think it would make a difference in developing a good long distance PCC load too.
 
I hope you mean 1 inch at 50 yards. 2 inches is what id expect from the cheapest bulk 9mm out there. The 124gr geco ammo i was shooting through my JRC a couple weeks back was about 1inch at 50 yards.
 
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I hope you mean 1 inch at 50 yards. 2 inches is what id expect from the cheapest bulk 9mm out there. The 124gr geco ammo i was shooting through my JRC a couple weeks back was about 1inch at 50 yards.
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I realize the original question was regarding pistol caliber carbine, but I'm talking about semi-auto handguns here. Haven't really done a lot of accuracy testing with pistol caliber carbines, but I'm thinking the same load development discipline may help in longer distance shots.

Here I'm testing my PPC revolver with my ransom rest. With the right load I can do ~1" groups at 50 yards. Right hand barricade I can only do ~3" groups but I'm working on it lol.

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HuskyDude said:
Seriously.... wonder why people are screaming gun control....
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At any distance I am betting outside of 50 yards I would expect you would not get much more than a dent given the round nature of the tank When my next BBQ tank times out and is empty I'll take it to the range and test it out. Neither a copper jacked or lead bullet will generate a spark to ignite the propane if that is what you are worrying about. Big explosions from bullets hitting gas or propane tanks are more a functions of movies along with offhand revolver shooting at 50 yards off the hip and silent shooting when using suppressors.

Other than well paid activists I don't see many people screaming gun control either. Even CBC seems to be letting up a bit given most of the shooting is being done by gangs fighting over drug turf, which incidentally was all supposed to end when Trudeau legalized Cannabis and stopped chasing hard drug use in the major cities.

Lastly, given the garbage used by shooters for targets left behind by our shooters at our range old propane tanks might be an improvement. Old BBQ tanks are are at least, recyclable.

Take Care

Bob
 
I've taken my old JRC 9mm out to 180m. At 100m we can hit beer cans pretty easily. Past 100m the wind really takes the bullets for a ride. I was seeing nearly 10" of vertical spread at 180m, with PMC and a couple flavors of Blazer brass. I'm sure that could be tightened up a bit if one reloads 9mm.
 
empty cylinders have a cool ring to them when hit. they stand on their own and have a handle. way easier to handle than a stand, gong and chains. it is amusing that this old thread has come up again.
i can hit, lpvo and off the bench, the 200m gong at spfga 3/5 times consistently with 3 different PCC's. For me, that is enough to be fact.
 
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