Ruger Precision Alternatives?

Ryan.M.Anderson said:
I was nicer at first - you are dumb.

Edited: The 700 isn't even on the top 100 in PRS this year.
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Let me give you a hurt feelings report, seems my opinions have tickled your fancy. Don't hate the player, hate the game, mr team mate

This is that hurt feelings report, btw

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Don't hate the fact a trued rem 700 action can keep up with your surgeon.
 
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JohnGL, what kind of experience and knowledge do you have to substantiate your statements? Care to elaborate?

You went through the trouble of posting cgn policy, why not take the time to back up your statements? It's only fair.
 
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JohnGl said:
Let me give you a hurt feelings report, seems my opinions have tickled your fancy. Don't hate the player, hate the game, mr team mate

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Don't hate the fact a trued rem 700 action can keep up with your surgeon.
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Haha OK.

I eagerly wait for my infraction.
 
JohnGl said:
Let me give you a hurt feelings report, seems my opinions have tickled your fancy. Don't hate the player, hate the game, mr team mate

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Don't hate the fact a trued rem 700 action can keep up with your surgeon.
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You are an absolute joke. And clearly have no experience or knowledge of high end rifles. Go back to the airsoft section where you can tell your friends how cool you are.
 
Just make sure you buy a remington airsoft gun and not an AI airsoft gun. Then it would just be a waste of money.

Also, my 700 does not hold me back at comps. If I do bad it is not on tbe gun but me. It was built by the Chou Bros and is great.

However, between my AI, TRG or 700, I am keeping the AI if I have to choose.
 
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JohnGl said:
ok lets see;

surgeon
defiance
trued rem 700
stiller
AI
kelby's
big horn's
badger 2013's
desert tech's
hawk hill custom's
impact precision's
GAP tempest's


this is a list of statistics from proclaimed 100 top shooters and the equipment they've used, speaking of actions of course.:)

over and over again you see trued rem 700 action competing with surgeons and defiance actions. normally year after year, those 3 actions change positions in the top 3, however all remain ranked in the top 3.

For someone to convince to me that a rem 700 action isn't comparable to the above mentioned manufactures of actions hasn't done their homework, I've shot, met, read, and compared gear with hundreds of folk in PRS setups/mil/le and believe me when i tell ya, i'd only use a trued 700 action, followed by surgeon, followed by defiance.

get yourself a rem 700 action. :)
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Yeah, guys at the top tend to have awesome gear. I think it's more pride, and the need for dependability, that drives it.

Savages or Tikka's are a high value proposition. But, now I don't know anyone that has done it, but there are so many small parts that if they broke, well, it makes me think that I could have dependability problems.

A surgeon, defiance, or any other fully upgraded rem 700 footprint actions are usually one piece of steel. Much harder to break a piece of steel than a bunch of smaller parts.

Also, I think most shy away from rem 700's because depending on the Smith, truing costs almost as much as buying an upgraded rem 700 footprint.

And last, saying that trued rem 700's are competitive, although inferior in fit and finish for eg, to a defiance, only emphasizes my original point: the actions are not as important as the fitting of a match barrel, as far as accuracy performance is concerned.

Anyway, I like to shoot and I know we all have our preferences. No one preference is better than anyone else's; and competition is to me, the forge that makes me a better shooter. And I highly value performance and durability, so that's why I have a surgeon. But otherwise, I'd be happy to shoot an RPR and I would savour every time I outperformed an upgraded rem 700 footprint with my lowly RPR. But, I'm a snob and so I'll stick with my preference and have to make sure that no RPR beats me
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If remington was so great they wouldn't have made guns that discharge when the bolt jiggles and shoots kids in the face. And then said "true professionals know remington makes the best product in the world" when USMC Scout Snipers criticized the ability to accidentally fire--they are the definition of professionals. Other than the Yellow Jacket .22's I will never, ever, buy a remington product, save for potentially on the EE so they don't make a dime as a company.

JohnGI, I don't think you know what you're talking about. Post-Freedom Group acquisition Remington's QC has fallen below Rugers, and that is pretty darn low these days.

OP, Savage 10 FCP HS precision stock. I got it, seems excellent so far. Bought it used on EE for $800 with 26 rounds down the pipe. Haven't got to shooting it yet but I doubt it will print large.
 
Sniffer said:
Interesting....

So in your opinion it Remington outranks Savage but both outrank the Ruger?

Are we talking accuracy only or other factors too (action of the bolt, build quality etc)?
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No, oh god no! The opposite.

The ruger was unpredictable, not very accurate, poorly made, bad quality control, ugly trigger, cheap parts that broke. God ugh, I was glad to get away from the ruger...

I would says Remington is most accurate, savage is close behind with a better trigger.
Ruger is well, just ignore them. I do now.

I speak only on the guns I have owned and experience I had with them.

My Remington's are tac drivers.
Savages are 1 moa or a bit better but have a better stock trigger (in my opinion)
Ruger I couldn't say enough bad things about it.

Drop a nice 2 stage trigger in a Remington and you will be a happy camper.
 
3of30 said:
You are an absolute joke. And clearly have no experience or knowledge of high end rifles. Go back to the airsoft section where you can tell your friends how cool you are.
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Yup, no experience or knowledge of high end rifles. Your conclusion is based upon your disagreement of my opinion, like all we all have opinions, much like bottoms. I suppose I shall carry on shooting my high end rifles and share my findings with more, uhm, like minded people :)

I love all my rifles, and actions! I will carry on acquiring kit and testing them out at the ranges :)

I have a passionate love for my rem700 however.
 
Canadiankeeper said:
No, oh god no! The opposite.

The ruger was unpredictable, not very accurate, poorly made, bad quality control, ugly trigger, cheap parts that broke. God ugh, I was glad to get away from the ruger...

I would says Remington is most accurate, savage is close behind with a better trigger.
Ruger is well, just ignore them. I do now.

I speak only on the guns I have owned and experience I had with them.

My Remington's are tac drivers.
Savages are 1 moa or a bit better but have a better stock trigger (in my opinion)
Ruger I couldn't say enough bad things about it.

Drop a nice 2 stage trigger in a Remington and you will be a happy camper.
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Ruger's American Rimfire compact that my amigo got has been nothing short of a phenomenal firearm that has exceeded my expectations in every facet of the word. I'm sorry your RPR sucked though. I was excited when they first came out but having read all the issues with them, I'm glad I went Savage. But if you read about it, Remington has also had more issues than a muh'fuka too.

Guess that's why knowing warranty is so important.
 
0 issues with my RPR, in fact, 1 hole at 100 yards has happened every trip - not every group, i need to 'warm up' to the firearm again.

What I do find hard is getting comfortable on it, and having to remember how I am set up so that I am the same every time. One thing I've learned shooting - once you rule out lose scopes and really ornery triggers, its down to how the firearm meets up with the shooter. Sometimes, on the first few outings, you simply aren't handling it the same every shot, so working those basic fundamentals hard every trip is a must, especially on a new firearm, regardless of experience. You can put one shooter on a platform, and have them perform admirably. That very firearm, in an others hands, and you see groups open up quite drastically, while on another they are well practiced with, they tighten right back up.

Aside from some sort of uncorrectable defect, like a bad crowning, every other screw or off set part can be easily corrected with a bit of patience and a few simple tools. A firearm should never be taken out to the range for live fire testing until you have gone over it completely, I can't, I don't have peace of mind until I do.

The best alternative to the RPR is the Rem 700 based on cost and availability - but you are going to buy the gun 2x - 3x over in terms of cost to get it set up the way the RPR is out of the box. For a first swing at the precision game, I am very satisfied with mine, and it should serve me well for quite a while. The absolute only 'issue' I have with it, is that the bolt does feel 'loose' when it is cycled back, however when locked down and ready to rock, it is rock solid. And it's a tad heavy, but I am only using it for bench work at this time - I got the 'enhanced' version with the break and the metal bolt shroud. Worth every penny.

Any reputable retailer will let you check out their stock to pick the one you like best.
 
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