Ruger Precision vs CZ MTD

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I won't make this too long but I'm currently shooting with a Ruger 10/22 Takedown and it's what it is.

I'd like to shoot more precision but since I won't be shooting anything like ORPS or competition (well, probably), I'm torn as to how much rifle I want to buy.

I'm looking at the Ruger Precision for about $700 which outside of its relatively decent price also takes 10/22 magazines and the pic rail will take my scope and mount no problem.

On the other hand, I was looking at CZ 457 MTDs at the store today and was impressed by them but at twice the price...I know price =/= performance oftentimes but between these two rifles I'm not sure what to choose.

So does groupthink say buy the Ruger Precision and save the extra money for match ammunition or does the Cry Once, Buy Once crowd rule?
 
The problem of this hobby is it’s never going to be buy once, but you will have to cry every time. So you will cry many times.
Speaking of experience, I had ruger precision, Henry, and then decide to cry once for Vudoo, now I’m crying again for a RimX.
 
GunsNotPuns said:
So does groupthink say buy the Ruger Precision and save the extra money for match ammunition or does the Cry Once, Buy Once crowd rule?
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The barrel, or more precisely, the bore is what ultimately matters most with regard to accuracy potential. Both the Ruger and the CZ have mass-produced factory barrels. The accuracy potential of either barrel is not known, as some can be better or worse than others. It's possible, however, that the consensus is that average CZ 457 MTR MTD will be generally more accurate than a Ruger Precision with the best ammo for each.

Groupthink aside, the trade-off of Ruger with match ammo vs the CZ with other ammo questionable. Put another way, expensive ammo is unlikely to make a less accurate barrel shoot well. Using non-match ammo in the CZ makes a comparison irrelevant because it's not apples to apples.

Regardless of ammo, the average factory barrel will not shoot like a really good barrel with good ammo. If you want to realize the best potential of a particular rifle, it's necessary to have both a good mass produced factory barrel, which is possible with either Ruger or CZ, and it's necessary to have good ammo.

Get the best rifle you can afford and give it the best ammo you can afford. You have to do both.
 
One thing that stands out to me is " ... since I won't be shooting anything like ORPS or competition (well, probably) " - so what's your actual (or expected) skill level. I'm in my 70s and have a Sav B22 that shoots 0.5 - 0.75" regularly, then I went to a C455 this Spring and am getting the same accuracy. I can see that I need to 1) stick with 'better ammo' (now using SK+ for both these guns) and 2) get a better scope (same model is now on both), so I can get more performance out of the rifle upgrade. I do not plan to enter any competition (as you say) so it's just to satisfy my self-interest. I could move to an even better rifle, but I want to control my urges (HA) so I see a new scope before a new rifle.
So, with that said, what are your real goals ( and will they escalate?) I know this is not an answer, just detailing my thought process on a similar situation. And I haven't decided 'for sure' either.
 
I never try and close doors so while I say I'll probably never shoot ORPS, hey, you never know right?

Untimely my goal is to just have a sub-MOA rimfire at 50/100 yards. As for skill level -- I'm not Chris Kyle but I'm not a shlub either. Give me a sub-MOA rifle and I can eventually get there.
 
Yep, I can say pretty surely I won't 'cause any competitions are over 100 miles away and I'm not that committed (or not yet committed (HA) but I watch out for low-hanging nets) but the price of gas may fall again ???
 
I like the CZ platform for it's cost/benefit ratio. With a little TLC and a well made custom barrel, you can squeeze out a level of performance from them that would cost you another $500+ to buy a high-end Anschütz (taking the chance the factory barrel is custom equivalent), Vudoo, RimX etc. It should really go without saying by now about the ammo... lot test, lot test, lot test. So, with the CZ, if you find the factory barrel doesn't meet expectations or you eventually outgrow it, it is relatively easy to fit it with a custom barrel and take it to the next level.
 
I would get the Ruger precision simply because I already had a 10/22. I'm a practical, rimfire shooter who really only uses the cartridge for varmint and practice. If I thought I may want to compete, I would cross that bridge when I got to it or wait until the libs threatened to outlaw it. At which time I would buy an expensive rifle that offered marginal improvement.
 
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Grantmac said:
Neither is likely to be sub-MOA at 100.
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Without intending it, perhaps, you strengthened the argument for the Ruger, ha ha. That said, perhaps my expectations for either should be tempered.

At any rate, I still remain no closer. Today I was definitively going to buy the 457 before I veered back to a mild preference for the Ruger. I'll be honest, I have never had this difficulty when it comes to buying something, particularly firearms. I'm usually pretty damned certain about what I want. I think the varied reviews are probably contributing to this indecision.
 
GunsNotPuns said:
Without intending it, perhaps, you strengthened the argument for the Ruger, ha ha. That said, perhaps my expectations for either should be tempered.

At any rate, I still remain no closer. Today I was definitively going to buy the 457 before I veered back to a mild preference for the Ruger. I'll be honest, I have never had this difficulty when it comes to buying something, particularly firearms. I'm usually pretty damned certain about what I want. I think the varied reviews are probably contributing to this indecision.
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I have the RPR which I took gopher shooting this year. I found the ergonomics of the mag change to be frustrating and awkward in the extreme, perhaps I just have not had enough time to become comfortable with it.

But it's never going to Alberta with me again.
 
Good choice on the 457. I got a 455 this Spring for $500 or I would have gone for the 457 myself. My 455 is the SS Lux which has the 'humpback' stock. Not a great figured wood but 'individual. Hope you get some good wood (Ha!).
 
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