Ruger Precision vs Tikka Tac A1?

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Hey everybody,

I've been getting into shooting more seriously lately, mostly pistol and rifle. I'm starting to think about a precision rifle setup going forward. I might get something custom built down the road if I can ever afford it, but for now I'm looking at the Ruger Precision Rifle vs. the Tikka Tac A1 chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor.

I know the Tikka is a nicer rifle, but does it have much on the Ruger as far as accuracy is concerned? Is it worth the extra $900 or so?

Also, I'm looking at a Vortex Viper PST FFP for a scope, but am open to advice on that as well.

Thanks.

-K
 
You could probably put together a budget build with parts from the ee for less then $1500. Last I looked that isn't much more then a t3x and less then a new rpr.
 
Hey everybody,

I've been getting into shooting more seriously lately, mostly pistol and rifle. I'm starting to think about a precision rifle setup going forward. I might get something custom built down the road if I can ever afford it, but for now I'm looking at the Ruger Precision Rifle vs. the Tikka Tac A1 chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor.

I know the Tikka is a nicer rifle, but does it have much on the Ruger as far as accuracy is concerned? Is it worth the extra $900 or so?

Also, I'm looking at a Vortex Viper PST FFP for a scope, but am open to advice on that as well.

Thanks.

-K
The builds of a custom rifle could cost you around 1500$-2000$, and you will have an exceptional rifle! The problem is the wait. You will have to wait... half a year! That's the advantage of a factory one.

The Vortex PST is a very good choice, these are entry level of high end scopes for long range application. My PST 6-24 never failed, and served me well for one year now (2K rounds), and I've used it a lot, up to 1KM. It tracks well, the reticle is good. I've turned so much the turrets, if it had to fail, it should have already failed by now. I go very often at the max elevation, then go back to the zero of my rifle... In PRS matches this is very common. And my PST did'nt failed yet!

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I went through this search last year, and ended up buying a Savage 10 BA Stealth in 6.5CM and topping it with a Sightron S3. Total build with the muzzle brake and bipod came out to ~$3500 plus I bought dies and reloading components at the time as well. I'm sure the rifle can shoot better than I'm capable of. With my early reload's I've been making 1.5-2" groups at 300m.

Between the 2 you mentioned though, I'd look at the Tikka. More to avoid some of the regular complaints about the RPR's I've heard, and just to have the better action. I may be incorrect, but I thought I had read that the RPR is based off a $400 Ruger American action. I'd be lying if I said that didn't affect my decision to go with the savage.
 
The TAC a1 is a Ctr in a solid chassis. I d recommend it over the rpr as it is a american in the core with a new stock.
 
You may or may not be interested but Dante Sports in Montreal has a Savage 12 F Class in 6.5 284 Norma for $1477. I think this is a very good deal but it really depends what you want in shooting platform.
 
You could probably put together a budget build with parts from the ee for less then $1500. Last I looked that isn't much more then a t3x and less then a new rpr.

I think I'll try to build something once I get a little more experience, I just figured something off-the-shelf would be better for a novice. My general plan is to get good on a Tikka or a RPR then sell it and build something custom. Also, what's the "ee" you mentioned?
 
EE is equipment exchange.

For parts all you need is an action, barrel and stock. Pick a gunsmith (there are many recommended on here) send the parts in and you get a rifle back.
 
The Tikka Tac A1 is an excellent rifle, as is the Tikka CTR. I have no personal first hand experience with the RPR but a few friends shoot them and I have heard good things from them. I have built several custom rifles over the last few years and to be honest, you have to spend a LOT of money to do better than a factory Tikka. The CTR is an awesome rifle, and the only change I would make is a new McMillan stock as I find the factory stock not great for dynamic shooting like PRS.
 
I've only handled one RPR and thought that it felt like ####, just terrible rough bolt. But that's a sample of one. The Tikkas are nice rifles. You could also get a Rem 700 barrelled action in 6.5 Creedmoor, they were selling for a good deal not long ago and put it in the chassis of your choice. For a scope, I'd avoid the PST, I've seen too many of them fail at matches. For the same price, I believe, you can step into something like a Nightforce SHV F1. I had one and it was great, tracked dead on and was perfectly reliable for something like 3000+ rounds. It doesn't have some of the features the Vortex has like 10 mil turrets and more mag but from what I've seen, too many people have to use Vortex's great warranty on the PST line...
 
I've only handled one RPR and thought that it felt like ####, just terrible rough bolt

from what I've seen, too many people have to use Vortex's great warranty on the PST line...

I've handled a few. Nothing that blew me away. Lots of them working the bolt sounded like a zipper. Lots of machine marks in the action. These were all gen 1 rifles. Shot one and wasn't overly impressed either. But I find chassis guns to feel cheap and flimsy from the few I have fired.

They seem to use that as a selling feature these days.
 
Hey everybody,

I've been getting into shooting more seriously lately, mostly pistol and rifle. I'm starting to think about a precision rifle setup going forward. I might get something custom built down the road if I can ever afford it, but for now I'm looking at the Ruger Precision Rifle vs. the Tikka Tac A1 chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor.

I know the Tikka is a nicer rifle, but does it have much on the Ruger as far as accuracy is concerned? Is it worth the extra $900 or so?

Also, I'm looking at a Vortex Viper PST FFP for a scope, but am open to advice on that as well.

Thanks.

-K

I watched the bolt on a GEN1 RPR actually fall apart at marksmanship training. It also failed to fire on a regular basis. The extractor is tight and milled with sharp edges, hence it shaves the heads and the fine brass powder enters the bolt and short stops the firing pin.

Buy a Tikka TAC A1 and enjoy a reliable, extremely accurate rifle.
 
I've only handled one RPR and thought that it felt like ####, just terrible rough bolt. But that's a sample of one. The Tikkas are nice rifles. You could also get a Rem 700 barrelled action in 6.5 Creedmoor, they were selling for a good deal not long ago and put it in the chassis of your choice. For a scope, I'd avoid the PST, I've seen too many of them fail at matches. For the same price, I believe, you can step into something like a Nightforce SHV F1. I had one and it was great, tracked dead on and was perfectly reliable for something like 3000+ rounds. It doesn't have some of the features the Vortex has like 10 mil turrets and more mag but from what I've seen, too many people have to use Vortex's great warranty on the PST line...
A friend had a RPR that tanked during a match. Extractor broke and seemed overall the rifle was crudely built. I know an extractor breaking is not exclusive to a RPR but generally it seemed a poorly made rifle. I know some people have good success as far as accuracy goes but accuracy means nothing without reliability. As you mentioned bolt was very rough on his as well. I don't think there is any comparison between a Tikka and a Ruger.
 
While a bit more expensive, Tikka's are the best values going in our game.

Great quality - good enough that they keep their headspace consistent enough that pre-fit shouldered barrels can and are being spun up for them. Excellent and continually growing aftermarket support as well. And they are generally really good shooters from the factory, albeit the barrels have a tendency to be on the slower side.

Get a Tikka, drop it in a KRG Bravo chassis (or other if you want to spend more $$), shoot the barrel out and get a quality barrel spun up for it.

Tikka's seem to be the sweet spot for value in our sport. Strikes a nice balance between budget and quality. Go with a lower priced offering and you will get a lower quality product. You can dress up a Tikka nicely to evolve with you as it has the baseline quality + aftermarket support. The cheaper options just have aftermarket support.

My vote is Tikka.
 
Another for the Tikka.

It's a higher quality firearm. The TRG22 magazines with modified end plate that the Tac A1 uses is excellent. I would prefer AIC just for cost and ease of buying but the Tikka magazine is excellent. The barrel is a Sako and many have stated it's the same as on the TRG22. I really like the action and how they manage to get a 70 degree bolt throw with the two lug design. The action is really very good and above the others in this price category. Also the safety has a nice positive click and works very nicely along with the excellent mag release setup. The chassis is decent. I like it. The only negatives are how it can rub when folded and that it folds to the left instead of the right. Also it's adjustment systems are below that of the best. But again minor. I also happen to like the two stage tactical trigger that the tac A1 comes with.. It's a great medium priced tactical precision rifle.

The negatives with the Tikka tac A1 are the 0 moa rail and possibly the magazines although I like them. The Ruger takes the SR25 mags and the AIC. So it can take the standard AR308 and the standard bolt 308 mags. That's pretty slick. The Tikka takes a version of the Sako TRG 22 mag with a different bottom plate. Excellent mags but more expensive and harder to get.

I don't want to paint the Ruger in a negative light. It was the first to really capitalize on the chassis tactical rifle and affordable entry rifle. Three lug bolt, adjustable chassis, takes the most common mags and not just one type. Good trigger (although I'm not a huge fan of the blade types) etc etc. The Tikka is just more refined and higher quality. You're also getting a lot of Sako, TRG experience and in some cases parts with the Tikka.

When I was trying to decide between the Ruger and the Tikka I came to the decision that the Tikka was the nicer overall firearm and had many things that I preferred over the Ruger. The barrel, two stage trigger and action/refinement. But more interestingly as evident in this thread, all the reviews I read where people had both... They preferred the Tikka. That right there made the decision exceptionally easy for me. That and a really good sale on the Tikka tac A1.

If you don't mind 308 instead of 6.5 CM then another really good option for a chassis tactical precision rifle is a Remington 5R milspec gen1 in a Cadex competition chassis. I picked up a gen1 action a number of years ago for $700 and recently a Cadex competition chassis for $1200 with Arca rail. The 5R is really the only Remington I can recommend. The others are hit/miss with some shooting very well and others not so. The 5R I have shot a lot of and they were all easily sub .5 moa rifles. The action while a two lug and not as nice as the Tikka, does do the job. That barrel on the 5R is excellent. I would even argue slightly better than the Tikka. This setup takes AIC mags. With the MDT 12 round mags it's pretty nice. MDT chassis are also another alternative. I like the MDT ESS, but I still prefer the Cadex. If you can find a gen2 in 6.5 CM and sell the HS stock ,this might also be a viable option to stay in the 6.5 CM calibre.

One last thought on this. It's unfortunate that Sig never got it together to put out a factory chassis system at a decent price point paired with their SSG 3000. I'm fortunate enough to have both an original German one with the McMillan stock and a current American one that came with the polymer stock, that I swapped into a GRS bolthorn chassis. The Bolthorn chassis is a bit different, kind of odd looking but it works really well with the SSG 3000. Price is the main issue along with lack of availability of the SSG 3000. Great tactical precision rifle and could have been another option that is up a level from the Tikka. If you do see one for sale, consider it as well. Not a turn key setup like the Tikka, but in a Mcmillian or GRS bolthorn chassis it's also a heck of a rifle. Even though there were export barriers I still believe Sig firmly dropped the ball with this one.

If you're looking at a specific type of competition then there are lots of other, probably better options. A CTR in a KRG stock etc etc. Custom etc. You name it. You will want whatever is competitive. 6.5 CM, KrG stock or full custom etc. Lots of posters on here that can direct you to what is best for the particular competition.
 
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Another for the Tikka.

It's a higher quality firearm. The TRG22 magazines with modified end plate that the Tac A1 uses is excellent. I would prefer AIC just for cost and ease of buying but the Tikka magazine is excellent. The barrel is a Sako and many have stated it's the same as on the TRG22. I really like the action and how they manage to get a 70 degree bolt throw with the two lug design. The action is really very good and above the others in this price category. Also the safety has a nice positive click and works very nicely along with the excellent mag release setup. The chassis is decent. I like it. The only negatives are how it can rub when folded and that it folds to the left instead of the right. Also it's adjustment systems are below that of the best. But again minor. I also happen to like the two stage tactical trigger that the tac A1 comes with.. It's a great medium priced tactical precision rifle.

The negatives with the Tikka tac A1 are the 0 moa rail and possibly the magazines although I like them. The Ruger takes the SR25 mags and the AIC. So it can take the standard AR308 and the standard bolt 308 mags. That's pretty slick. The Tikka takes a version of the Sako TRG 22 mag with a different bottom plate. Excellent mags but more expensive and harder to get.

I don't want to paint the Ruger in a negative light. It was the first to really capitalize on the chassis tactical rifle and affordable entry rifle. Three lug bolt, adjustable chassis, takes the most common mags and not just one type. Good trigger (although I'm not a huge fan of the blade types) etc etc. The Tikka is just more refined and higher quality. You're also getting a lot of Sako, TRG experience and in some cases parts with the Tikka.

When I was trying to decide between the Ruger and the Tikka I came to the decision that the Tikka was the nicer overall firearm and had many things that I preferred over the Ruger. The barrel, two stage trigger and action/refinement. But more interestingly as evident in this thread, all the reviews I read where people had both... They preferred the Tikka. That right there made the decision exceptionally easy for me. That and a really good sale on the Tikka tac A1.

If you don't mind 308 instead of 6.5 CM then another really good option for a chassis tactical precision rifle is a Remington 5R milspec gen1 in a Cadex competition chassis. I picked up a gen1 action a number of years ago for $700 and recently a Cadex competition chassis for $1200 with Arca rail. The 5R is really the only Remington I can recommend. The others are hit/miss with some shooting very well and others not so. The 5R I have shot a lot of and they were all easily sub .5 moa rifles. The action while a two lug and not as nice as the Tikka, does do the job. That barrel on the 5R is excellent. I would even argue slightly better than the Tikka. This setup takes AIC mags. With the MDT 12 round mags it's pretty nice. MDT chassis are also another alternative. I like the MDT ESS, but I still prefer the Cadex. If you can find a gen2 in 6.5 CM and sell the HS stock ,this might also be a viable option to stay in the 6.5 CM calibre.

One last thought on this. It's unfortunate that Sig never got it together to put out a factory chassis system at a decent price point paired with their SSG 3000. I'm fortunate enough to have both an original German one with the McMillan stock and a current American one that came with the polymer stock, that I swapped into a GRS bolthorn chassis. The Bolthorn chassis is a bit different, kind of odd looking but it works really well with the SSG 3000. Price is the main issue along with lack of availability of the SSG 3000. Great tactical precision rifle and could have been another option that is up a level from the Tikka. If you do see one for sale, consider it as well. Not a turn key setup like the Tikka, but in a Mcmillian or GRS bolthorn chassis it's also a heck of a rifle. Even though there were export barriers I still believe Sig firmly dropped the ball with this one.

If you're looking at a specific type of competition then there are lots of other, probably better options. A CTR in a KRG stock etc etc. Custom etc. You name it. You will want whatever is competitive. 6.5 CM, KrG stock or full custom etc. Lots of posters on here that can direct you to what is best for the particular competition.

Sig is coming out with a new chassis rifle. Ryan Cleckner gave it an A+ (not that that should mean anything, he's a sellout clown :rolleyes:)

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In my opinion you won't go wrong with either the Tikka or the Ruger. They are both excellent rifles.

Below is 5 shots at 100 yards out of my Ruger Precision 6.5 Creedmoor, the flier was all my lack of talent. It's an old photo that I have shown on here before but I don't take many photos at the range. The rifle shoots better than I do.

 
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