Seen a few advertisements for the new red label and it looks pretty nice. Buddy had an older model and it was a pretty nice gun and built like a tank. I wonder how the new model will stack up to the Browning’s and Beretta’s? Will probably be around the same price point but being partnered with Connecticut shotgun they could be more expensive.
Ruger red label 3
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The SRP converted into CAD is $4600. Not outrageous, but not cheap.
The original and second edition Red Labels were built to be working man’s guns. The third version now seems to be a bit more up market.
I haven’t heard of the problems and customer service issues that struff55 reports, but then I’m not associated with any business in the trade and he is. I do, however, own a shotgun made by CSMC. My personal experience has been that the gun is of superior quality in all respects. I have had no issues whatsoever, so I have no experience with their customer service.
The original and second edition Red Labels were built to be working man’s guns. The third version now seems to be a bit more up market.
I haven’t heard of the problems and customer service issues that struff55 reports, but then I’m not associated with any business in the trade and he is. I do, however, own a shotgun made by CSMC. My personal experience has been that the gun is of superior quality in all respects. I have had no issues whatsoever, so I have no experience with their customer service.
I can see all the used Red Labels on Gun P**t upping their asking price by $1200 now
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Falconflyer
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I could never get excited about a Red Label therefore I never owned one. They just always seemed to be dead in my hands compared to other guns.
i had a few over the years ok at best
in 1998 retail nes 1200$
2026 4500$ it will be the same mechsnics likely nicer wood the working mechanic will not be changed
csmc builds the 21 winchester today i h ave owned a csmc o/u A10 it was a good gun i paid 8k canadian in 2012 same deal there they are 18k today and not worth the money
for that matter a citori is not worth 4500$
in 1998 retail nes 1200$
2026 4500$ it will be the same mechsnics likely nicer wood the working mechanic will not be changed
csmc builds the 21 winchester today i h ave owned a csmc o/u A10 it was a good gun i paid 8k canadian in 2012 same deal there they are 18k today and not worth the money
for that matter a citori is not worth 4500$
sillymike
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Seems kind of odd that Ruger would outsource the manufacturing, or have something that's rebranded...
- Other than the name on the gun, would there be any advantages to buy a Ruger instead of simply buying a CSMC ?
- Other than the name on the gun, would there be any advantages to buy a Ruger instead of simply buying a CSMC ?
Ruger knows they won't sell a lot of them setting up production would be a money looser. They build guns for profit that's the bottum line.
Falconflyer
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Ruger made the Gold Label side by side for 2 years, there was no demand so production stopped. I might buy one if it was a good deal simply because they are rare but for no other reason than that.
never it did not sell well and i think csmc actually built them another highly over rated gun
it would be in the 6 k mark today
CSMC entered into a similar arrangement with Savage in 2017 to build their (new at the time) Savage Fox A Grade. Just like the Red Label III is unlikely to be a big seller for Ruger, the Fox A Grade didn’t sell well for Savage. Interestingly, while Savage no longer sells the Fox A Grade, CSMC still does. In fact, Savage only ever sold the A Grade in 20 guage, whereas CSMC now makes them in 12, 20, and 28 gauge.
There’s a used Savage Fox A Grade in 20 ga available for $4K CAD at a shop on Vancouver Island. Meanwhile, the same model and gauge costs $6400 USD purchased from CSMC (just this week they reduced some, but not all of them, to $4750). All of those from CSMC have a higher level finish.
I expect the Red Label III will follow the same pattern:
There’s a used Savage Fox A Grade in 20 ga available for $4K CAD at a shop on Vancouver Island. Meanwhile, the same model and gauge costs $6400 USD purchased from CSMC (just this week they reduced some, but not all of them, to $4750). All of those from CSMC have a higher level finish.
I expect the Red Label III will follow the same pattern:
- It won’t sell well for Ruger
- It will continue to be available from CSMC at a higher price point
- Those purchased from CSMC will be better finished (enabled by the higher price)
sillymike
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I can't remember how much were the Savage Fox/CSMC when they came out... The seemed to balance well enough... but instead of having gloss blue barrel, they reminded me of 870-express mat finish ?!?!
