Ruger releases the new PC Carbine

Brian46 said:
Whoever the verifier/gunsmith was when the application for the status change was filed will have some explaining to do as well
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At the time this method of conversion was in compliance with the law, but no longer is.

#1bcshooter said:
Not to mention all the M1 carbines that had the same modification done & people think they are still non restricted .
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Yah I run in to those fairly often.
 
Well, Ruger must have people’s confidence in that everyone is already comparing it to the cx4 storm and yet no one has shot it yet lol.

I’m no expert, but gleaning from this site, the CX4 Storm seems to be the most reliable pistol caliber carbine for sale in canada .... I hope the Ruger does in fact offer competition in that regard. The old Ruger police carbines were considered very reliable ... we'll have to see if the new design changes effect reliability with the take down aspect and perhaps cheapening of parts to keep the price low. The 10/22 takedown is immensely popular and if they keep this price low, I can see a huge fan base and aftermarket bloom to upgrade it. I’m a little worried about the magazine adapters; I hope they’re durable enough and not finicky. I think these are going to be a huge success for Ruger; takedowns are immensely popular ... I know guys can take it or leave it with takedowns, but there are enough people that like something handy for their boat, plane, truck, or like a discreet carry case because they live in a city of nosey city slickers or whatever.

If the barrel stays at a restricted length, the takedown aspect will not be of much use. Maybe Dlask or someone can make a longer barrel? If a non-restricted barrel comes in, it will be a rather long pistol caliber carbine (although the gun has spacers, so when Ruger lists the length, does that include all the spacers installed?). It approaches a full rifle size and weight ... almost the same as the mini 14.

But these could be fun 10 rounders to shoot and if it comes in at a good price and with good quality, Ruger will clean up.
 
Ar180shooter said:
At the time this method of conversion was in compliance with the law, but no longer is.
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no, as posted earlier. It depended on who you talked to at the time.

Hopefully you saved a copy of the paperwork for the status change if you own one.
#1bcshooter said:
No , these conversions were done at a time the police did the status change .
This was pre C68 . some provinces filed the paperwork some would not .
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Ar180shooter said:
Why would they look foolish? Laws change and ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
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law didn't change, those who allowed this to happen, made a mistake at the time and never corrected it by notifying the registered owners.
 
Brian46 said:
no, as posted earlier. It depended on who you talked to at the time.

Hopefully you saved a copy of the paperwork for the status change if you own one.


law didn't change, those who allowed this to happen, made a mistake at the time and never corrected it by notifying the registered owners.
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Nonsense... the interpretation of the law is what changed.
 
Brian46 said:
no, as posted earlier. It depended on who you talked to at the time.

Hopefully you saved a copy of the paperwork for the status change if you own one.


law didn't change, those who allowed this to happen, made a mistake at the time and never corrected it by notifying the registered owners.
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At the time lengthening the barrel by welding or permanently affixing a muzzle device, block, or metal tube was widely considered an acceptable method of lengthening the barrel to maintain NR status.

I should have been more specific. The law itself didn't change. The interpretation of the law did. There is no legal requirement for the RCMP or any other police organization to notify people of these changes. A copy of the old status change papers mean about as much as a hand written note.

Quite frankly though, I don't get what the argument here is about. The fact of the matter is such conversions are not legal and as such these guns that are not registered as restricted are illegal. Everything else is semantics.
 
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Ar180shooter said:
There is no legal requirement for the RCMP or any other poloce organizarion to notify people of these changes. A copy of the old status change papers mean about as much as a hand written note.
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oh, you are one of the few who find it acceptable for the government/RCMP to change the status of a firearm from NR to Restricted or Prohibited without notifying the license holders first with a date for compliance before they are subject to arrest, my mistake
 
cyclone said:
The Swiss Arms and 10/22 magazine debacles didn't do much for building trust/confidence ... :wave:
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Or beowulf mags Or the dlask 870 that went from NR to R overnight, they didn't even send out a new registration certificate to the owners with the new status (this happened while we had the long gun registry)
 
Brian46 said:
Or beowulf mags Or the dlask 870 that went from NR to R overnight, they didn't even send out a new registration certificate to the owners with the new status (this happened while we had the long gun registry)
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Same thing as the t97? 'oh yea we screwed up, that batch of t97s you already shipped out are prohibs'
 
Brian46 said:
Or beowulf mags Or the dlask 870 that went from NR to R overnight, they didn't even send out a new registration certificate to the owners with the new status (this happened while we had the long gun registry)
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lone-wolf said:
Same thing as the t97? 'oh yea we screwed up, that batch of t97s you already shipped out are prohibs'
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Let's not forget the CZ858 that went from NR to Prohib. Thankfully that bs got overturned, but Brian doesn't need help, the twerp defending this sort of behaviour does though. To think that this sort of unchecked behaviour is acceptable is utterly asinine.
 
Brian46 said:
oh, you are one of the few who find it acceptable for the government/RCMP to change the status of a firearm from NR to Restricted or Prohibited without notifying the license holders first with a date for compliance before they are subject to arrest, my mistake
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r34skyline said:
Let's not forget the CZ858 that went from NR to Prohib. Thankfully that bs got overturned, but Brian doesn't need help, the twerp defending this sort of behaviour does though. To think that this sort of unchecked behaviour is acceptable is utterly asinine.
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Are you two for real?

Have you ever heard of the phrase "Don't shoot the messenger"?

You guys both need to take a god damn chill pill.
 
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