Nah, the demand for a carry gun in .45 acp in the states is still high...equates to more moola,this fact is then taxed when it comes north of the boarder
Ruger SR1911 .45 Why so many up on the EE?
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Nah, the demand for a carry gun in .45 acp in the states is still high...equates to more moola,this fact is then taxed when it comes north of the boarder
the fact that the Ruger SR1911 is a 70 series clone sparing us purists the needless addition of that 80 series trigger disconnect is a real plus for me as it's 1911 simplicity with the robust construction of a Ruger. The only changes thus far is a set of Pachmyre rubber wrap around grips that make it so very controlable for smallish hands like mine and a full length guide rod with a 22lb. spring. Next up would the ambi safety I mentioned before because I'm afflicted with a port sider's dominant eye. A front night sight would be a nice touch along with a Crimson Trace laser grip for tired eyes.
For me this 1911's a keeper as I've had none of the negative issues mentioned by others here. None.
Just lucky I guess.
For me this 1911's a keeper as I've had none of the negative issues mentioned by others here. None.
Just lucky I guess.
I think a recurring theme from these threads is that Ruger QC is all over the place.some guys are quite happy with the gun,some not so.The fact that Ruger has been churning these out for the last while in huge quantities means that the odd lemon going to be out there
Ive owned 2 of these(have one now),the first one was awful,definitely the loosest 1911 that Ive ever seen including any Norinco.To say it was a dissapointment after a 11 month wait for it to arrive after all the hype around these was an understatement.I sold it at a loss to a guy in my club who is a machinist and enjoys working with guns,so he was quite happy with it after working on it.My second SR1911 was better,still not great and needed a few things done to get it set up to where I was happy with it but all in all,not a bad gun at all
If you can find a good one,its not bad for the price,but I think that the STI spartan is a much better gun for a little more $'s and the RIA guns are nice for the price.Unless the deal on the EE is a smoking one,better off to pay a bit more and buy the gun from the local gunshop where you can inspect the gun,or else ask lots of questions from a EE seller as to slide to frame fit,barrel to slide fit etc.
Ive owned 2 of these(have one now),the first one was awful,definitely the loosest 1911 that Ive ever seen including any Norinco.To say it was a dissapointment after a 11 month wait for it to arrive after all the hype around these was an understatement.I sold it at a loss to a guy in my club who is a machinist and enjoys working with guns,so he was quite happy with it after working on it.My second SR1911 was better,still not great and needed a few things done to get it set up to where I was happy with it but all in all,not a bad gun at all
If you can find a good one,its not bad for the price,but I think that the STI spartan is a much better gun for a little more $'s and the RIA guns are nice for the price.Unless the deal on the EE is a smoking one,better off to pay a bit more and buy the gun from the local gunshop where you can inspect the gun,or else ask lots of questions from a EE seller as to slide to frame fit,barrel to slide fit etc.
I think you make an excellent point here sevoman in that mass production does and will continue to have QC issues where getting the product first to market and dealing with the problems later is almost a foregone conclusion. Being a retired machinist myself and well understanding fits and tolerances and what role that played in the industry I was in (carbide indexable tooling) would surely have put us out of business had we not all "bucked up" to a better product.
What the general public and firearms consumer in particular has no concept of is the fact that ambient temperatures and the variances thereof alone in a manufacturing facility can be a huge factor on QC not to mention a host of other issues. I believe this is why many manufacturers of steel products have relocated from the New England areas of their early beginnings to the southern and south-western states where climate is more consistent as well as the political demographic aspects of the now anti-gun states pushing them out.
Never has the old adage "time is money" been more applicable than in today's manufacturing environment as CNC machines now crank out parts at unattainable volumes only 25 years ago. These machines for example will keep track of every individual cutting tool commonly known as expendable tools and how many cycles it is expected to run before requiring replacement and the real down side to this picture is that no longer do the industries require the level of competence from their CNC machine "operators" as was needed in the heyday of machining back in the 70's where top level machinists were the one discerning factor in QC before the advent of "computer numeric control".
But those days are long gone and never to be seen again. Just because you can program a computer, set-up the tooling, the fixtures and rough parts and execute the program to crank out these parts does not make you a skilled machinist. Knowing how to apply a cutting tool whether it's done on a CNC machine or on a conventional hand cranked Bridgeport is crucial. But oddly enough the industries are crying for these "machine operators" as the good ones who are willing to work the brutally long hours are in short supply. And it's no surprise there as the incentive for young people to get into the machining trades just isn't there when entry level earnings equate to minimum wage combined with long hours.
Of the top 5 occupations that were linked to marital discord and divorce, drug and alcohol abuse and even criminal activity, police, doctors, lawyers topped the list, mold and die makers and machinists followed close behind. That list has likely changed by occupation somewhat but not by much. If you dispute these claims just consult with any divorce lawyer as they will have the stats.
Such is the manufacturing business of today and for every 1 success story there are 10 that failed and went belly up!
Should we be all that surprised with QC problems in the manufacturing sectors today?
I'm not! Not the least bit surprised!
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I bought a nice used one on the EE here a while back. Aside from a minor light idiot scratch, it was the tightest 1911s I had. Series 70 trigger felt decent, barrel lock up was tight, and shot very accurately. No issues except and minor trigger rattle with no mag inserted. A nice looking, stainless series 70 1911 under $800 - awesome deal. Guess I was lucky to pick up a good one. I eventually sold it to a friend who really wanted one and was in his budget. I have always been happy with Ruger product, but I think this market is saturated with 1911s and the SR1911 isn't rare enuff to keep.
At least with a slight noob scratch on a stainless frame there's a chance to buff it out.
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I love mine. Tight, precise, great weight. the good parts of a 70series and the good parts of the 80series. Nice looking, great, great shooting!
First mag out, from 33 feet, I put all 8 in a softball sized area. Most in a baseball sized area.
trigger is really really great, especially for stock. clean and crisp, as well as light. I don't have a scale, but its light. Almost as light as my CZ 452 set at its lowest setting.
I let a very experienced shooter take a crack at it. He put his first 3 in one hole, and the other 4 in an area about the size of a two-nie beside it. He couldn't quit talking about it, even weeks later. He has had everything and shoots competitively.
I'll never sell it unless I am hurting for money.
First mag out, from 33 feet, I put all 8 in a softball sized area. Most in a baseball sized area.
trigger is really really great, especially for stock. clean and crisp, as well as light. I don't have a scale, but its light. Almost as light as my CZ 452 set at its lowest setting.
I let a very experienced shooter take a crack at it. He put his first 3 in one hole, and the other 4 in an area about the size of a two-nie beside it. He couldn't quit talking about it, even weeks later. He has had everything and shoots competitively.
I'll never sell it unless I am hurting for money.
I don't own a Ruger 1911, but I can attest to buying a 1911 pistol and deciding another .45 design is better for me. I had 2 1911's and sold them both... just liked my other ones much better. I think the 1911's look awesome, but the ergonomics on my Sig 220 are better for me.
Call it buyer's remorse or 'just didn't like the platform', I think these are the biggest reasons why guns get thrown on the EE. Don't forget that all the huge Xmas credit card bills have arrived (I got mine), which may be the reason why there are a lot of EE sales right now.
Call it buyer's remorse or 'just didn't like the platform', I think these are the biggest reasons why guns get thrown on the EE. Don't forget that all the huge Xmas credit card bills have arrived (I got mine), which may be the reason why there are a lot of EE sales right now.
The Ruger 1911 is probably the best dollar for value .45 on the market. It is not a high end custom fitted pistol--it is an out of the box useable, reliable (in my experience) combat grade handgun. I am sure there are duds--just like there are duds in most other manufacturers products in its price range. I just tested some handloads in mine a few weeks ago and found several that will group inside the 9-ring on a standard target. More than accurate enough for paper and people punching--fired sveral hundred handloaded rounds with fmj, jacketed, plated and lswc bullets without a malfunction of any sort.
It is no looser than any of the various makes of .45 that I have used over the years--and certainly not as loose as the surplus .45's that we could buy cheap in the 70's and 80's--they all had to be worked over to improve the accuracy and reliability. ymmv.
It is no looser than any of the various makes of .45 that I have used over the years--and certainly not as loose as the surplus .45's that we could buy cheap in the 70's and 80's--they all had to be worked over to improve the accuracy and reliability. ymmv.
Personally I think it more a case of unlucky if you get a bad one.
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if you look more into how the SR1911 is made, it becomes more rare. And in its price bracket its extremely rare, for lack of a better term.
There is a review over on Guns and Ammo that explains the tech and design in it, and its pretty damn cool, for even a few hundred bucks more. From the proprietary casting techniques(that they do for other bigger name, more expensive makers), to the mix of series 70 and series 80 stuff, stainless, real wood, skeletonized hammer and trigger etc. you get a LOT of 1911 for your money.
Now that aside, they needed to wait a little bit and iron out the early wrinkles. Sights falling off, casting flaws etc are not good. Those who have later ones, they are really great pistols.
There is a review over on Guns and Ammo that explains the tech and design in it, and its pretty damn cool, for even a few hundred bucks more. From the proprietary casting techniques(that they do for other bigger name, more expensive makers), to the mix of series 70 and series 80 stuff, stainless, real wood, skeletonized hammer and trigger etc. you get a LOT of 1911 for your money.
Now that aside, they needed to wait a little bit and iron out the early wrinkles. Sights falling off, casting flaws etc are not good. Those who have later ones, they are really great pistols.
I had a Sig 226R .40, shot it for a year or so but hated the transitioning between the traditional sighting planes and hold we use on this side of the pond in particular with 1911's compared to how it's done in Germany with a Sig. But everything is done differently in Germany.
After having numerous Colt 1911's, (2 of which were 10 MM's) the switch to a Sig made no sense to me plus I've just never gravitated to a double action semi-auto or even the striker fired auto's like the M&P. Said goodbye to the M&P also.
Being old enough to remember buying a Colt Combat Commander in 9 MM, satin nickel finish for $185.00 NEW back in 1975, I guess the 1911's have grown on me let's say.
My SR1911 is a keeper with plenty of room for $ upgrades to sights. It's hard to beat the Ruger for pricepoint and what you get in a box stock 1911 these days.
After having numerous Colt 1911's, (2 of which were 10 MM's) the switch to a Sig made no sense to me plus I've just never gravitated to a double action semi-auto or even the striker fired auto's like the M&P. Said goodbye to the M&P also.
Being old enough to remember buying a Colt Combat Commander in 9 MM, satin nickel finish for $185.00 NEW back in 1975, I guess the 1911's have grown on me let's say.
My SR1911 is a keeper with plenty of room for $ upgrades to sights. It's hard to beat the Ruger for pricepoint and what you get in a box stock 1911 these days.
I bought my Ruger 1911 used from another fellow here on CGN. It offers great value for money, I like the slab-sides without the ridiculous front serrations, and love stainless steel in general. The trigger was not as good as my Norinco Commander, but markedly better than the $1400 Springfield which I also had. Would love to own a compact with shorter grip. I have no intentions of selling mine, just as I have no intention of ever owning another Remington 700, new or used.
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RSA1, wow, the triggers must be markedly different in each gun, as my trigger is really really nice!! Even people with big dollar 1911s have said this is a great trigger.
Having shot some Norincos, this is way way better, at least comparing mine specifically to the Norincos I have shot/dryfired.
Having shot some Norincos, this is way way better, at least comparing mine specifically to the Norincos I have shot/dryfired.
