I agree, and that was the point I was making, and while I do like some of HK's offerings, especially the P30, even with their great quality they are undeniably over priced, at least to me. The Sig is a good example though. One thing that was funny to me though were some of the comments about the barrel, if someone posted a picture of Glock or Smith barrel, or say a comparably priced 1911 like the SR1911 or R1 barrel that looked like that it would be preposterous, everyone would be telling the OP to send it back. Its accepted as being fine because the gun itself is cheaper and still functions fine, and people claim to not care, which I can understand. But having said that, dont make the argument that it is "just as good" because it really isnt, it might be a good bang for your buck, or just as accurate etc, but its not comparable in many categories. The gun has been around for quite a while now, and to my knowledge, and correct me if Im wrong, has no government or agency contracts, and there has to be some reason for that. I lump it into the same category as the XD(m), viable options for some, but are surpassed by the big three (Glock, HK, Smith and now even the PPQ) in pretty much every facet other than price point, which admittedly can be the deal breaker. Again, not saying its junk, not saying I will never own one, I just dont think that it being cheap is enough of a reason to NOT get one of the other three, unless it just fits your hand perfect.





























carry on fella's this great entertainment......ok seriously, geez guys lets give it a break eh!!!






















