Rules for cross border movement of ammo
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friend of mine looked into it and came up with each person coming back to canada can bring upto 5000 rounds each without paperwork (still need a valid PAL though)
after 5000 rounds you have to fill out some explosives importing paperwork or something. (even 5000 and under you will be paying taxes)
we were looking into it for the same reason. just haven't gotten around to trying it yet.
after 5000 rounds you have to fill out some explosives importing paperwork or something. (even 5000 and under you will be paying taxes)
we were looking into it for the same reason. just haven't gotten around to trying it yet.
Importing into Canada and exporting from the USA are two different things. You cannot export from the USA without the proper documentation, which from my understanding is difficult at best to get.
CanuckWR has it right. While Canada will let you import up to 5,000 rounds, the US will NOT LET YOU EXPORT EVEN ONE ROUND without the proper Export paperwork (i.e. the exporter needs a valid Export Permit and the shipment itself needs a valid Export License).
You can't even bring back reloading components, not one primer, bullet or piece of brass without the paperwork.
You can't even bring back reloading components, not one primer, bullet or piece of brass without the paperwork.
I looked into this here how it was explained to me. Cabellas in Lacey wa will sell me ammo and don't care where I am from. Canada customs will let you bring back up to 5000 rounds of live ammo - just declare and pay duty. However, it is illegal for me as a Canadian to transport it or be in possession of it on my drive from the store to the border. One possible solution is to get a mail box or use a service that allows you to order ammo online and have it shipped to a town on or very near the border. It could be wrong about that and am interested in any further comments...
Ok, how do you get the ammo from the mailbox in the USA to your storage box at home?
Close, if you have a US hunting license (which you can buy on line) you can legally purchase ammo and drive to the boarder. Crossing the border is a US federal offence. You can buy it for use in the US, and although they don’t care, it’s not legal for Cabellas to sell it to you without a US hunting license
Shipping to a postal box in the US and then brining it across is still a crime.
From what just happened to me... ( I purchased a scope at Cabelas, and found out it's the same as ammo... )
US doesn't allow export, but Canada will ALLOW import.. so it's a grey area... buy it, and cross the border with it.. you won't have an issue.. I just did with my scope and the Canadian Custom agent didn't even question it.... I'll be trying it next time I go down....
US doesn't allow export, but Canada will ALLOW import.. so it's a grey area... buy it, and cross the border with it.. you won't have an issue.. I just did with my scope and the Canadian Custom agent didn't even question it.... I'll be trying it next time I go down....
Well its like this. You could be walking back across the border because the US guys just siezed your vehicle and its contents. They don't take breaking there export laws very easy.
Then you get to go down to their court room and answer to your charges. Pay some stiff fines, or just give them your vehicle and contents.
These days its not worth the risk of being caught smuggling things out of the US.
Then you get to go down to their court room and answer to your charges. Pay some stiff fines, or just give them your vehicle and contents.
These days its not worth the risk of being caught smuggling things out of the US.
I heavily checked into this about a year ago and Sallen is correct. If you buy a us hunting license your allowed to use the ammo you purchase in the USA there only legally. If you buy with the intent of bringing it back across the border it is an illegal act. There law states that you will be charged with possession of explosive material as an illegal alien in the USA.
Granted ive bought from dicks and they have never asked me for ID or anything and I've made it to the Canadian border but its a huge risk and in my eyes not worth it
Granted ive bought from dicks and they have never asked me for ID or anything and I've made it to the Canadian border but its a huge risk and in my eyes not worth it
Actually, Cabella's can sell you ammo. It is not their job to ensure that you are allowed to possess ammuntion. Only in Canada does the nanny state make a dealer responsible for a customer's knowledge and compliance with the law.
And, if you have a hunting licence valid for any state in the Union, you can, in fact, purchase and possess such ammo. But, when you turn your car towards the border, and any federal officer stops you, he will have no trouble getting a conviction for attempting to illegally export ammunition from the United States without an export permit. You do not have to attempt to physically cross the border to be convicted. a "reasonable man" will beleive that a Canadian, with no hotel reservation or belongings at some American address, in his vehicle, driving towards the border, intended to cross that border with whatever goods are in his vehicle.
If you are lucky, you get to walk across the border, sans your wheels, to return and face charges at a later date. If you are not lucky, in a remote border state where the jails aren't filled to overflowing, they may just hold you for trial, and then you gotta hope the judge has Canadian friends, personally thinks the law sucks, believes you were just ignorant of the law, and sees no point in the United States government feeding and housing you for up to ten years.
Me, saving a few bucks just don't seem worth it. But our jails are full of fools who think such things are "worth it" so I suppose there is a market for the Homeland Security guys to serve!
And, if you have a hunting licence valid for any state in the Union, you can, in fact, purchase and possess such ammo. But, when you turn your car towards the border, and any federal officer stops you, he will have no trouble getting a conviction for attempting to illegally export ammunition from the United States without an export permit. You do not have to attempt to physically cross the border to be convicted. a "reasonable man" will beleive that a Canadian, with no hotel reservation or belongings at some American address, in his vehicle, driving towards the border, intended to cross that border with whatever goods are in his vehicle.
If you are lucky, you get to walk across the border, sans your wheels, to return and face charges at a later date. If you are not lucky, in a remote border state where the jails aren't filled to overflowing, they may just hold you for trial, and then you gotta hope the judge has Canadian friends, personally thinks the law sucks, believes you were just ignorant of the law, and sees no point in the United States government feeding and housing you for up to ten years.
Me, saving a few bucks just don't seem worth it. But our jails are full of fools who think such things are "worth it" so I suppose there is a market for the Homeland Security guys to serve!
