Run-in with MNR last night

[doublelung]

I'd still try it on arbitrary grounds. Now whether the crown would pursue the case, well, that's an entirely different matter...



PS:

You're also failing to quantify that a gun un-encased is a regulatory offense, an open beer in your console is criminal.


Just FYI.

an open beer in your console is not a criminal offence, it is a provincial offence under the liqour licence act.


DL

 

[mvarley84]

No, carry a gun sock- it just says encased, it doesn't specify. A garbage bag is also usable, as long as it's opaque.

Awesome for bows...I carry one on every hunt...folds up nice in the pocket, and doesnt make the bow bulky.

It is a stupid rule tho.

 

[ALLS London]

an open beer in your console is not a criminal offence, it is a provincial offence under the liqour licence act.


DL

you would almost definitely be charged with CCMV, section 553 of the criminial code. Again, whether or not you're over the limit determines if you're guilty, but you would most likely get charged.

 

[sherlockbonez]

I wish they would let us use one of those bow slings instead of having carry the case around which is not very practical.

 

[Pudelpointer]

Wow. That is a dense rule.

Sorry, but here in grizz country the rifles are ready to rock 5 feet from the truck.... No matter how dark it is.

In AB the law is no discharge of firearms 1/2 hr before or after.

 

[mvarley84]

I wish they would let us use one of those bow slings instead of having carry the case around which is not very practical.

As I said in an earlier post, use a garbage bag dude, it is cheap, easy, replaceable, and you dont have to haul around a proper bow case.

 

[sherlockbonez]

I'll remember that, but won't they just give you #### anyways for it not being enclosed? Or should I bring a twist tie as well?

 

[mvarley84]

I'll remember that, but won't they just give you s**t anyways for it not being enclosed? Or should I bring a twist tie as well?

I just tied the end closed with a really loose knot so I could undo it easily. That way it is covered on all 6 sides meeting the Ontario definition of "cased". I had one run in with a CO while employing this tactic, and he actually laughed and thought it was a genious idea...I told him I wasn't genious, just cheap...lol

 

[doublelung]

you would almost definitely be charged with CCMV, section 553 of the criminial code. Again, whether or not you're over the limit determines if you're guilty, but you would most likely get charged.

HUH????

Section 553 of the CC deals with absolute jurisdiction and has nothing to do with care and control of a m.v.

And no, you would not most likely be charged with CCMV for having an open beer in the console. First the police need grounds to arrest ie, signs of impairment. An open beer is not this.

Second, if arrested for CCMV you still have to provide a sample of breath, if not over the limit, not charged.

 

[rem338win]

you would almost definitely be charged with CCMV, section 553 of the criminial code. Again, whether or not you're over the limit determines if you're guilty, but you would most likely get charged.

No you most definitely would not. You obviously have no enforcement experience, so feel free to stop. You would be charged under provincial liquor legislation. The open beer would only be evidence to support an imparted or .08 charge.

 

[ALLS London]

I stand corrected on the section- it's been a while since I had anything to do with any kind of enforcement.

I was drawing from a memory where I arrested a person for trespassing (refusing to leave when directed, he was in his vehicle consuming alcohol on the property I was assigned to), the responding PC charged him without a breath sample, saying that open container and smell of alcohol were enough. Perhaps he was wrong.

Regardless, it was a while ago, and I'll leave the criminal stuff to those who are current with it.

 

[Exmilitary]

You got that right!
It seems you have a lot of silly laws in Ontario.

We do.

 

[madtrapper143]

I watched a CO issue a ticket for a firearm on or in a vehicle while loaded. A friend placed a loaded .30-06 on the hood of his truck and when the CO discovered it was loaded a ticket was issued. The same would apply if a loaded rifle or shotgun was leaned against a truck. It would not apply when the gun is unloaded. I was also present when a hunter was checked on his ATV headed back to his camp. He got caught out past legal shooting time and had actually removed the bolt from his rifle and placed it in the bottom of his pack in an attempt to be some what compliant. No matter, checked and issued a ticket for no case. It is a stupid law but enforced none the less.

regards, Darryl

 

[Rocket Surgery]

One time I was pulled over in the bush and the CO asked for some of my coffee and told me to call him if I saw anyone dumping garbage in the bush.

He wanted to see me shoot my 858 but I told him I didn't want to scare the deer away. This was in Shawnigan, so maybe the guy was high I don't know.