Running Into issues with my stoeger m3000

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So my gun ... is basically the joke in my group of friends. It's not a matter of if it will malfunction. More a matter of when it will...

We go clay shooting all the time.

When I go to do my set... the first shell fires. However it sometimes won't grab the hull to eject. Sometimes it grabs the hull but raises the next round leaving both the empty hull and the next round in the chamber...

I'm at a loss here. My MC312 did the same thing which is why I got this one.
 
Sometimes the cheaper shells have steel instead of brass heads and after firing the steel does not "return" to approximate nominal size as well as brass and sticks in the chamber. Polishing the chamber will help for sure.

Also make sure the butt is firmly planted in the shoulder otherwise (depending on the function of the gun) there may be issues similar to limp wrisiting a pistol. I had one semi that would occasionally do this when shooting sporting clays (low gun) as rapid shots sometimes meant the butt was not firmly planted where it should be..
 
Boomer686 said:
Also make sure the butt is firmly planted in the shoulder otherwise (depending on the function of the gun) there may be issues similar to limp wrisiting a pistol. I had one semi that would occasionally do this when shooting sporting clays (low gun) as rapid shots sometimes meant the butt was not firmly planted where it should be..
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^^^What he said^^^ It is an Inertia driven gun so it uses the recoil to cycle…if it is not mounted properly, it will hiccup.
The fact that this has happened to you with two different Inertia guns speaks to this being the operator, not the gun.

Also, replace the factory extractor for a Benelli M2 extractor.
 
Stay away from Stoeger is the real answer. I've never seen one that has any kind of reliability and eventually all the guys I know who have owned one ended up selling them and moving into something reliable. I had a buddy who wanted an O/U for hunting. I did my best to get him to the buy a Citori he was looking at instead of the Stoeger Condor he was eyeing up. He didn't want to spend the extra $700 though he has no issue dropping $25,000 on a dog (field trialers :rolleyes:). Well he flies out here to come hunting and brings that Stoeger with him and of course it doesn't work right. It will only fire one shot no matter which way he sets the selector. I just looked at him after his third or fourth time cussing up a storm about the gun only being able to get off one shot at geese hanging over the decoys and said "well look at the bright side now you only have to train your dogs to do single retrieves"!

But in all seriousness you get what you pay for and you can't expect sweet tasting oranges when you buy a bag of lemons.
 
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A few of my buddies purchased M2000 models when they first came out. They were great performers the first few seasons but after several thousand rounds issues like yours developed. All had worn parts causing all sorts of difficulties. This was no problem when parts were available but now they are hard to find. Your M3000 ( I don't know how many times it has been fired) is likely having the same issues with worn parts. They are good guns but don't have the longevity that the high dollar guns do. ( the pricey ones have problems too to be sure). As suggested you can swap some parts around (if you can find them) to see if it fixes the issue. Have a friend shoot the gun and see if the issue persists. It may be your grip and shooting style. Who knows?

Darryl
 
Had a same issue with Winchester shells and thought something was wrong with the shotgun. Then I tried Federal, Challenger, Hornady and Remington ... literally zero problems whatsoever. This is to confirm that Winchester is simply garbage! Stoeger cycles low recoil ammo (low brass) again without any hick-up.
 
the spank said:
Stay away from Stoeger is the real answer. I've never seen one that has any kind of reliability and eventually all the guys I know who have owned one ended up selling them and moving into something reliable. I had a buddy who wanted an O/U for hunting. I did my best to get him to the buy a Citori he was looking at instead of the Stoeger Condor he was eyeing up. He didn't want to spend the extra $700 though he has no issue dropping $25,000 on a dog (field trialers :rolleyes:). Well he flies out here to come hunting and brings that Stoeger with him and of course it doesn't work right. It will only fire one shot no matter which way he sets the selector. I just looked at him after his third or fourth time cussing up a storm about the gun only being able to get off one shot at geese hanging over the decoys and said "well look at the bright side now you only have to train your dogs to do single retrieves"!

But in all seriousness you get what you pay for and you can't expect sweet tasting oranges when you buy a bag of lemons.
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Agree 100%
Cheers
 
the spank said:
Stay away from Stoeger is the real answer. I've never seen one that has any kind of reliability and eventually all the guys I know who have owned one ended up selling them and moving into something reliable. I had a buddy who wanted an O/U for hunting. I did my best to get him to the buy a Citori he was looking at instead of the Stoeger Condor he was eyeing up. He didn't want to spend the extra $700 though he has no issue dropping $25,000 on a dog (field trialers :rolleyes:). Well he flies out here to come hunting and brings that Stoeger with him and of course it doesn't work right. It will only fire one shot no matter which way he sets the selector. I just looked at him after his third or fourth time cussing up a storm about the gun only being able to get off one shot at geese hanging over the decoys and said "well look at the bright side now you only have to train your dogs to do single retrieves"!

But in all seriousness you get what you pay for and you can't expect sweet tasting oranges when you buy a bag of lemons.
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We used to have few skeet shooters with Stoeger shotguns, but now we have none,they may be okay for a few thousand rounds, but they don't last long term.
 
I had an M2000, emphasis on had. It was a horrible gun that often jammed on the second shot with anything other than trap rounds. It jammed with the trap rounds too, just not as often as with magnum rounds for bird hunting.
 
cosmic said:
Stay away from the cheap Winchester promo shells, they're trouble.
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I've shot thousands upon thousands of those cheap winchester promo shells with absolutely no issues other than the very occasional one that had a bad primer, those have been few and far between though. Granted I mostly shoot o/u guns but I've had a few semi's and they had no problems with the cheap shells either. I did have a Benelli Vinci semi auto for a while and it refused to cycle the cheap Reminton Gun Club loads but it would digest everything else I put through it including the Winchesters. If I was the op then I'd certainly try other shells though.
 
Bean_Mct said:
So my gun ... is basically the joke in my group of friends. It's not a matter of if it will malfunction. More a matter of when it will...

We go clay shooting all the time.

When I go to do my set... the first shell fires. However it sometimes won't grab the hull to eject. Sometimes it grabs the hull but raises the next round leaving both the empty hull and the next round in the chamber...

I'm at a loss here. My MC312 did the same thing which is why I got this one.
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This has probably been answered already, but it sounds like you have extractor issues. The Stoeger semis are known for it. Get a, I believe it's, a Benelli aftermarket extractor and spring from Stoeger. Even if this does not fix the problem, you have fixed something that needed to be fixed anyway. The claw on the Stoeger extractor is rounded, and has a lot of potential to cause failure to extract.

Another potential problem problem could be that the recoil spring and or tube are fouled with old grease, or even defective. I realize I am making the assumption that you have not already looked into this.
I have two Stoegers. The M3K and the m3500. Both work flawlessly. When I got them I cleaned them thoroughly, fired only heavy shells for the break-in period, and of course changed the extractor and spring. I also bought an aftermarket spring to lighten the trigger pull. That is a optional fix, though.
 
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I don't know about other Stoegers, but I have to laugh at people that put down the Stoeger semis. Yes, the 2000s had issues, but those issues were addressed with the 3000 series shotguns. I have fired the proverbial thousands of shells out of my two Stoegers, and they are still going strong. If you don't believe me, go on YouTube and listen to all the glowing reviews people have posted concerning the 3000 series shotguns. Yes, I had to make one minor change to make them operate flawlessly, but I still came out way ahead on cost.
Don't misunderstand, I have expensive shotguns as well. Nonetheless, I would pit the stoegers against them any day of the week.
 
Quigly said:
I don't know about other Stoegers, but I have to laugh at people that put down the Stoeger semis. Yes, the 2000s had issues, but those issues were addressed with the 3000 series shotguns. I have fired the proverbial thousands of shells out of my two Stoegers, and they are still going strong. If you don't believe me, go on YouTube and listen to all the glowing reviews people have posted concerning the 3000 series shotguns. Yes, I had to make one minor change to make them operate flawlessly, but I still came out way ahead on cost.
Don't misunderstand, I have expensive shotguns as well. Nonetheless, I would pit the stoegers against them any day of the week.
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And I laugh at those that think they are a quality semi
Ya think. If you think that you have never owned a quality semi of the B gun variety
When you get over 200,000 on one with just a O ring replacement then maybe I will put one against yours
Stoegers is a clear case of your get what you pay for
To each their own
Cheers
 
3macs1 said:
And I laugh at those that think they are a quality semi
Ya think. If you think that you have never owned a quality semi of the B gun variety
When you get over 200,000 on one with just a O ring replacement then maybe I will put one against yours
Stoegers is a clear case of your get what you pay for
To each their own
Cheers
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I see far too many of the cheap semi autos with issues, to ever consider buying one, my lower end for semi autos, is the Browning Silver , or Winchester SX-3, they seem to be very reliable, for a reasonable cost.
 
stubblejumper said:
I see far too many of the cheap semi autos with issues, to ever consider buying one, my lower end for semi autos, is the Browning Silver , or Winchester SX-3, they seem to be very reliable, for a reasonable cost.
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Agree 100%
Show me one that will last a lifetime cheap and I will buy it like my superx's and browning golds as you say
Cheers
 
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