Russian Beauty - MTs-8 ( МЦ-8 )

DMSTER said:
Let’s start from the very beginning.



Here is mine, Mts-8-1:

Both are 1966 production

Hope you enjoy reading about this legendary shotgun.
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Hi Dmitry,welcome to the МЦ-8 Club!:)Excellent review,thanks!Just could you explane to everyone,what does it mean "Tula choke"

ps this is mine:)

 
Claybuster said:
Pretty much. Soviet and Eastern Bloc shooters used what the government told them to or risk a trip to a labour camp. In that era no one used an MT8 who didn't have to. After the fall of the Evil Empire shooters there had the freedom to choose other guns most of them did.

If the design and workmanship were everything the OP claims they were then someone else would still be making them now. Nothing wrong with the gun however and the OPs are very nice. It is quite obvious he's very proud of them.
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Perazzi won the Soviet contract (to supply the entire Soviet team) before the Berlin wall fell, well before the '92 olympics. These guns lost even with state backing, and suffered subsequent to the collapse of USSR due to lack of state support.

Also, I believe DMSTER's point was that Beretta was making them now :D I haven't an opinion on that yet.

DMSTER said:
Yes, this what been said: after 1990s TsKIB was almost destroyed, production and quality fell, and since this time Russian team started to use Perazzi as almost everyone :)
However, and for some reason overall competition's results much lower now for Russia too... regardless of the very high shooter's ranks.
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I would quibble about Russians not performing at trap at the Olympics recently, Alipov won trap gold in 2004, took bronze in 2008, they've also had many good showings at World Cups and European Championships.

Also, it should be noted how well former Eastern bloc countries are doing (the competitors who would have been lumped into competing for the USSR previously): silver for women's trap for Slovakia in 2008, bronze for women's skeet in 2004 for Azerbaijan, men's skeet gold in 2000 for Ukraine etc. Also let us not forget 2008 gold in trap for Kostelecky (Czechoslovakia), and any East Germans.These should be lumped into the Russian totals if we really want to compare to Soviet era standings. I haven't even looked at double trap (because no one shoots it).

edit: reread DMSTER's point, not sure how to look at stats of any but the highest ranked russians. In terms of medals counts, the former soviet republics are basically still where they used to be, but I don't know the state of the sport within each country. In any case, the MT series of over unders were never widely available, you had to make the national team before you were given one (as per http://www.clayshootingusa.com/html/archive/feb_mar07/Soviet Star.pdf) so the loss of the MT guns should not have affected the overall sport as much as, say, the collapse of the Soviet Empire.
 
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I hope, me and my friend CKC45 are not the only owners of MTs-8 in Canada and would like to see may be someone else will respond to this thread.

Yes, you are right, only national team members in USSR were able to get and shoot from Mts-8. Remember what I said - in 1976 the price of this shotgun was almost 5-8 times higher than Beretta DT10 in out world now ( in comparable prices ) It was near $2500 USD.

Another example of appreciation for this shotgun is that currently in Europe and Russia, people, who can buy everything with no problem, buying used MTs-8, sending it to TsKIB factory and get it back fully refurbished, like new and still enjoy the shooting from it.

Currently gunsmiths in England performed modification on older MTs to change them to interchangeable chokes and very successfully - lots of meat on the barrels

Oh, and this is the photo of the MTs-8 with officially recorderd over 1 000 000 rounds
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Photo from 2007, and he still shooting skeet with this gun!
 
Thank you Tozman, well known thread for MTs lovers :)

Hope to hear more news from local shooter if anyone has another Mts here.
 
Hello. Nice to hear discussion about Russian shotguns. it is true that МЦ well made for centurys. The quality was excellent, but now it isnt so. Nowadays more and more Russians prefer foreign analogys, such Hatsan Excort, Browning. . . But they are expensive . so that the majority have МР–153.(MR).
 
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Just finished custom job - stock fitting on Beretta DT10 for my friend - growing champion - his son needs longer grip :)
Here is the one beside my MTs-8:

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And Beretta DT10 alone, with extended grip and palm swell, sorry for off topic :)

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