Russian Revolver ?

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Chatting with someone years ago -- he mentioned a Russian revolver that had a unique action where the cylinder moved forward after it rotated to somehow eliminate the gap between cylinder and barrel ?
Seems to me that they were an "international competition" gun ?
Anyone know anything about these ? Are there any of them around ?
 
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Yes, that conversation was 30+ years ago with a fellow bullseye pistol competitor, so some of the details were a little fuzzy. Definitely not a "competition" gun but interesting none the less.
 
Actually there were two variant models that might still be produced in small numbers. Top level, I.e. World class accuracy. See many more of them in Australia than other western countries. The design worked, the target versions were/are single action, the cocking rotates cylinder and moves it forward to seal to the barrel. Trigger is very good. Handled and shot a few rounds out of one in the early 1980s. Didn't really see the need as I was doing real well with my Smith.

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Nagant M1895 revolver is very versatile, and there were target and competition models manufactured on its base TOZ35 just comes to mind. Comments above about it being bad or heavy or inaccurate, are just comments of people who have not shot them enough. Anyway the cartridge for this revolver can be loaded to various pressures and with various bullet types which make it very adoptable to various shooting disciplines. Military M1895s do vary in fit and finish as well as barrel condition. But they are far from something that is unusable. Prices of them show that.
 
T&G said:
Actually there were two variant models that might still be produced in small numbers. Top level, I.e. World class accuracy. See many more of them in Australia than other western countries. The design worked, the target versions were/are single action, the cocking rotates cylinder and moves it forward to seal to the barrel. Trigger is very good. Handled and shot a few rounds out of one in the early 1980s. Didn't really see the need as I was doing real well with my Smith.

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These would be the TOZ-36 and TOZ-49 revolvers produced by Baikal. The 36 was chambered for standard 7.62 nagant cartridges and was discontinued in favour of the 49 which chambered a trimmed nagant cartridge (7.62x26 nagant I believe) and had an improved ejector assembly.

The 49 was discontinued sometime around the end of the USSR in the 90's according to my research and they were going to start producing the TOZ-96 revolver in .32S&W (this is specifically exempted from prohibited under Canadian law) but as far as I can find these never moved beyond a prototype.
 
Milspectacles said:
These would be the TOZ-36 and TOZ-49 revolvers produced by Baikal. The 36 was chambered for standard 7.62 nagant cartridges and was discontinued in favour of the 49 which chambered a trimmed nagant cartridge (7.62x26 nagant I believe) and had an improved ejector assembly.

The 49 was discontinued sometime around the end of the USSR in the 90's according to my research and they were going to start producing the TOZ-96 revolver in .32S&W (this is specifically exempted from prohibited under Canadian law) but as far as I can find these never moved beyond a prototype.
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You know, I initially wanted to say .32 S&W in my initial post but didn't -- the guy that was telling me about it was quite the collector and had hundreds of different guns and quite the bullseye pistol competitor too. Sadly passed away a few years ago - I never got to see it if he actually did have one.
 
cuslog said:
You know, I initially wanted to say .32 S&W in my initial post but didn't -- the guy that was telling me about it was quite the collector and had hundreds of different guns and quite the bullseye pistol competitor too. Sadly passed away a few years ago - I never got to see it if he actually did have one.
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It is definitely possible that a few were made and are held in private collections, I really can't conclusively say if it was produced or not.

One person I talked to told me that the TOZ-96 was listed in the catalogue of a large German sports shooting store up until about 2003 but I have never heard of or seen anyone who actually had one.
 
Revolvers are no longer produced in Russia since the mid-20th century. All that came to the market is stocks from the warehouses of the army of which are still made signal and civilian versions of this gun, but the frame, trigger and the rest is done in those days. Very few people shoot now from these guns, generally they lie in collections. Especially appreciated are the samples produced in tsarist Russia - until 1917.
 
I wanted and almost bought your "run of the mill" Nagant M1895 revolver a handful of times over the 10 years I've had my PAL...never pulled the trigger tho, ammo cost and rareness of the ammo was part of it...wish I did, they used to be around $295...they have now more then doubled!!!
 
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