Rust or carbon/dirt/gunk?

Dling said:
Fred, it has been fairly humid the last couple weeks. There is a dehumidifier running the the area I store my firearms though.
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Doesn't matter. The ramped heating and cooling down in humid climates will give you this issue no matter how many de-hums you have in your safe. It usually starts after a trip to the range and not cleaning it after wards.
The people talking about corrosive ammo tend to forget that the primers are the corrosive part and it usually results in the action area. The gas system rust is usually caused by the rapid heat changes when shooting in a humid climate. Hence why people in the Okanogan of B.C. tend to have less rusting issues than say people in the LMZ (lowermainland Zone)
 
Crazyest Canuck said:
Doesn't matter. The ramped heating and cooling down in humid climates will give you this issue no matter how many de-hums you have in your safe. It usually starts after a trip to the range and not cleaning it after wards.
The people talking about corrosive ammo tend to forget that the primers are the corrosive part and it usually results in the action area. The gas system rust is usually caused by the rapid heat changes when shooting in a humid climate. Hence why people in the Okanogan of B.C. tend to have less rusting issues than say people in the LMZ (lowermainland Zone)
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Interesting. Makes even more sense considering it's stored in the basement. Gun is usually still warm when I get home and put it away. Luckily my 10/22 hasn't shared the same fate.
 
blista77 said:
that be rust and some pitting, first thing to do go give your rifle a bath in hot water ( get ride of the corrosive salts) then dry it, then take some super fine steal wool and oil and remove the rust and then give your rifle a good cleaning and give her a good oiling.
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I know that if I cleaned any of my rifles in hot water, I'd have had my father's boot up my keister. Was always taught to use a petroleum based solvent product. Brake cleaner, WD 40, etc, hand wipe or brush clean, then a light oiling to keep the rust away. My M305 is immaculate that way and I blast away often! Be careful with the water, after all, the rust is oxidation and spawns excessively in high humidity. Water is the ultimate in high humidity, if not dried immaculately.
 
sobo4303 said:
I know that if I cleaned any of my rifles in hot water, I'd have had my father's boot up my keister. Was always taught to use a petroleum based solvent product. Brake cleaner, WD 40, etc, hand wipe or brush clean, then a light oiling to keep the rust away. My M305 is immaculate that way and I blast away often! Be careful with the water, after all, the rust is oxidation and spawns excessively in high humidity. Water is the ultimate in high humidity, if not dried immaculately.
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Best post ever, better than fellow Gunnuters that have over 30,000 posts.

Plus when you use Rem Clean or Brake cleaner your bolt carrier group will always
look brand new. Wearing rubber gloves is something I have to remember to do.
 
"...that be rust and some pitting..." Yep. May be caused by corrosive ammo or may be not. Since you seem to think you don't have to clean your 'big kid toys' every time you shoot. It'll only get worse. A light touch with a fine brass wire wheel in a bench grinder or oil and 0000 steel wool will remove the rust without bothering the finish.
 
Oakekily Doakely got another e-mail from my friend who commanded a
platoon in the Canadian Army:



Glad to help. Never saw an Infanteer waste boiling water on his weapon when he could use it for a shave, coffee or a cup of tea.


I did see guys take their FN's into the showers after a week in the field in Gagetown. It worked well as long as the weapon was dried and oiled right away. There where big laundry rooms where we could strip the weapon down on a ceramic counter, clean it up and not lose any bits and pieces.
 
fred0000 said:
I don't clean every visit and I shoot once a week, I know i'd be kicking myself if I found one of my guns even slightly rusted like the OPs, only if it's wet/raining will I clean when I get home, but on wet/rainy shooting days I bring less guns so i'm not spending to much time cleaning when I get home.
who knows how dry the air is where the OP stores his firearm it may be moisture in the air causing this, if that's the case then a light oil for storage would be a very good idea.
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I agree, I bought one of those Dessicant kits from Walmart essentially desicant in a basket and drip bowl, Just checked it to day after a month and it was full (quart) Going back to get a couple more.
 
Friend of mine tells the same story of taking the FN's into the shower, said they sweated lots of crud and oil out of them.

Brendan10 said:
Oakekily Doakely got another e-mail from my friend who commanded a
platoon in the Canadian Army:



Glad to help. Never saw an Infanteer waste boiling water on his weapon when he could use it for a shave, coffee or a cup of tea.


I did see guys take their FN's into the showers after a week in the field in Gagetown. It worked well as long as the weapon was dried and oiled right away. There where big laundry rooms where we could strip the weapon down on a ceramic counter, clean it up and not lose any bits and pieces.
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Okay, so took the gas system apart, cleaned all the rust off with some scotch-brite and then wiped a bit of oil on the surfaces of the (exterior) gas system and barrel. I'm assuming that should be sufficient for rust prevention until the next range trip?
 
Y'know, this brought up an idea for me. My bolt and op rod have a different (greenish) colour to them. I know there was a thread somewhere about re-parkerizing or a different coating in Canada. I be dammed if I can find it.

Anybody know the fellow who does it and have the name?
 
sobo4303 said:
Y'know, this brought up an idea for me. My bolt and op rod have a different (greenish) colour to them. I know there was a thread somewhere about re-parkerizing or a different coating in Canada. I be dammed if I can find it.

Anybody know the fellow who does it and have the name?
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His CGN name is Murdoc and he runs Arma-Coat. Great fella if you want the job done right ;)
Although make sure if you want it to look like the Norinco finish to tell him as he can even color match it to USGI when parking too.
 
Brendan10 said:
I did see guys take their FN's into the showers after a week in the field in Gagetown. It worked well as long as the weapon was dried and oiled right away. There where big laundry rooms where we could strip the weapon down on a ceramic counter, clean it up and not lose any bits and pieces.
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This is still done, only usually with the C6. Weapon gets very dirty and it isn't the fastest to clean by hand, especially when you're tired.
 
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