I have a new this year remington 700 LS "midgrade bluing I was told" that began rusting after 1 day of rain hunting. I had the gun off stock prior to and did the usual light rub down with oil on metal surfaces. After coming home from hunt, bolt had rust starting as well as inside bolt channel and a few other places under stock. I was able to wipe it all down and it looks like new again but I'm not really impressed overall. Is this something that gets better with time, as more oil gets applied? Would a stainless rifle have this same problem?
Rusty Rifle
- Thread starter deerfarmer
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I was at a recent gun show and one dealer there had 5 brand new Remingtons with rust inside the bolt channel and on the bolt. I chalked it up to poor storage on his part but then I noticed none of his Savages or Tikkas had any rust on them at all.
When I pointed this out to him he seemed genuinely surprised and immediately started to clean them with a silicone rag.
Rocket Surgery
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
My 870 express is the only gun that will just randomly start rusting, and I own norincos.
I use oil and wipe it down, but if I touch a spot with my hand or miss a spot it will rust. I have to take the rifle sight off the barrel just so I can scrub all the rust off. The bottom of the feed ramp is rusty right now. I'm just glad it's a cheap shotgun and not a Rem700.
I use oil and wipe it down, but if I touch a spot with my hand or miss a spot it will rust. I have to take the rifle sight off the barrel just so I can scrub all the rust off. The bottom of the feed ramp is rusty right now. I'm just glad it's a cheap shotgun and not a Rem700.
My buddy has that with his 870, not a lot, but there is surface rust on areas.
Doesn't affect anything, but it's there nonetheless.
Rocket Surgery
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I'm resigned to accept the same thing. It's going to rust, and all I can do is oil it and scrub it down with fine steel wool. I will never, ever buy another Remington product, even a marine magnum.
I don't plan on selling it, as the gun is actually very good. The only problem I have ever had, other than the rust, is the magazine tube jamming up on me and only allowing 3 rounds instead of 4. I'm certain that it's easy to fix.
Rocket Surgery
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Theoretically I believe the answer is yes. bluing is porous and should drink the oil with multiple coats. The problem is the actual rifling, which is way more important than the outside of the barrel. I believe you can put a small water balloon over the barrel to stop most of the rain from getting in.
The problem is not with the bluing which in itself is only controlled oxidation. The problem is surface finish. A rough steel surface e.g., bead blasted or insufficiently polished will rust very quickly because the surface is not smooth. Rust can gain a toehold really fast in rough surfaces. That being said, Remington's quality has slipped a great deal since the 1980's.
- Location
- Steel Town
I bought an additional Rem 870 rifled barrel for my Marine Magnum, and it has the typical matte black oxide finish. I gave it a light coat of oil and it hasn't rusted yet. I wonder if the metal quality is the culprit? Maybe there's some inconsistency with the metal used by Remington?
Slooshark1
CGN frequent flyer
I have a CDL 700 and it doesn't rust up like that. Mind you, I wipe it down with cloth soaked in Rem oil every night when I'm hunting. My Dad uses a product called LPS1 Greaseless Lubricant on his rifles that leaves a thin film on the surface of the metal that beads away water much better than Rem Oil. I'm thinking of switching. I love my Remingtons, though. No complaints here. Are you hunting near salt water by chance?
blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- A blue part of Ontario
No surprise.
The metal does have a somewhat roughish feeling to it. I'm pretty bummed out about the rifle ... I was loving it up until I seen how easily rust developed and I am pretty religous about keeping them lubed up.
The inside of my barrel was thankfully not rusting - my buddy with his Tikka t3 however was not so lucky on the same hunt
his also fortunately came off with some oil and a brush.Does anyone have any thoughts on the merit of stainless?
I really like the rem700 XCRII platform - just wish I could get one in a short action with a little shorter barrel!! I'm a bit of a .308 fanatic
seems like I am on the prowl for a new rifle again
I have a mossberg shotgun and it rusts. It just comes down to the quality. Cheaper guns are made cheap and rust no matter what you do. I use a bore brush and gun oil and hoppes and boreshine to keep it clean. However if you want something that does not rust buy a better gun. Sorry but remington sucks.
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- Steel Town
I don't agree with your last statement, but like every manufacturer, some lines are better built than others. I can tell you that my Marine Magnum does not suck, and in fact, I sold a $2000 O/U with accessories just to buy one! No regrets at all, and I consider it a long-term keeper.
If you buy a budget rifle/shotgun, often its the finishing that lacks. Nothing wrong with saving a few pennies and getting it professionally coated, like Arma-coat, etc, or just accepting that you need to keep the finish well oiled and often.
friend of mine just got a rem 700, his didnt even make it out side and started to rust from his humid basement. now, prolly not the best place to store fire arms but having said that all his other ones were fine. i dont know enough about remingtons methods of manufactureing but im goona go ahead and say that quality just isnt there.
My friends Remmy 700p (Police model??) with heavy barrel had problems right off the bat. As soon as he unboxed it, the gunsmith at the store mounted his scope immediately.(leupold vxII 3-9x40 brand new too) I watched as he locktited all the screws and torqued them down properly. All was good. We went to the range that afternoon, and after a box of ammo, we were actually hitting the target in a shotgun pattern. I was baffled. I checked everything to make sure something hadn't come loose. Then we tried a second box of a different ammo, and it was even worse.
I thought that maybe the barrel somehow had leading or something in it from the factory test shots, so I took out my borelight, and low and behold...what do I see???
A shiny barrel WITHOUT ANY RIFLING in the bore. Now that what I call quality control. Remington just gets better with age.
I thought that maybe the barrel somehow had leading or something in it from the factory test shots, so I took out my borelight, and low and behold...what do I see???
A shiny barrel WITHOUT ANY RIFLING in the bore. Now that what I call quality control. Remington just gets better with age.
GameStalker30-06
CGN Regular
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- Newfoundland
I guess you've come across the mythical remington 700 police shotgun
. Very rare, highly collectable, and not worth a $%&#!!! your friend truly is lucky for finding a gem like that..
Quality control at it's finest!!The rusting problem is not due to the metal, but the finish applied. As for the end user, it will also depend on what oil is being used. Things such as WD 40 or sewing machine oil, for examples, do not provide a lot of protection. If you couple that with a poor protective factory finish, then rusting could happen.
I have Remingtons, including an 870 express. Never had a rust problem. I do use Breakfree CLP as my oil of choice. Rain or snow, no rust yet.
I have Remingtons, including an 870 express. Never had a rust problem. I do use Breakfree CLP as my oil of choice. Rain or snow, no rust yet.
