S&W 686 357 mag with 106mm barrel being made for Canada

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I was in the Powder Keg in Kamloops BC yesterday and the owner Mark told me that Smith & Wesson is going to make a 686 for Canada with a just legal 106mm barrel. He called it the Canadian model.

Has anyone else heard about this?

I sure hope it is true.

Graydog
 
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I hate to burst anyones bubble, but gun companies in the US could care less about Canadain sales, as at the 2008 SHOTSHOW I was told by more than one major US gun company were are less than 1% of total world wide sales! The reason the handgun companies are runnig just longer than 4" barrels is due to new California State gun laws! The rest of the county calls it Californistan! Most dealers and general gun selling public will not sell to this state due to all the Bulls**t that is going against the open right to bear arms! I am half American and the other half Canadian, so I get to see both sides of the border, and it is getting worse for the US citizens compared to the ease of access to fireams we have! I am not saying we Canadians have a great system, it is just easier for most transaction across are great and wonderful country! I am gratefull the US based companies are finaaly realizing if they build it we will buy it! Now a Nice model S&W 27 with 4-1/4" barrel. that would be the ticket! Dale Z in T-Bay!
 
I was in the Powder Keg in Kamloops BC yesterday and the owner Mark told me that Smith & Wesson is going to make a 686 for Canada with a just legal 106mm barrel. He called it the Canadian model.

Has anyone else heard about this?

I sure hope it is true.

Graydog

It's 107mm
 
Does the lock preclude having to use a trigger lock?

Yes, and it works great. Not sure what exactly everyone's panties get in a knot about built in trigger locks. But it would have been kinda nice if they could have hidden it like Ruger does on the Vaquero.

Does anyone know if this "Canadian version" will be available in a 625 model?
 
I you re-read my post I said a GOOD trigger job. Who did yours? I'd be willing to wager it's not as good as the work done by Mike Carmoney in Iowa.

It would be nice, but how does shipping in and out of the states work?

As for name dropping a custom gun smith his name is Ian Jones (myself). I make no statement about better than any one else but I am good with an India stone, and the locking mechanism is easily removed if your really that concerned about it. Either way I'm happy with it, and that's really all that maters to me.
 
If you read the description of Mike Carmoney's action work, the internal lock can simply be removed if lightening the hammer is required. At the worst, this means that the trigger pull must be a couple ounces heavier if you need the gun to be IDPA compliant by retaining the lock. I seriously doubt that there are many shooters good enough to tell the difference.

Not all action jobs entail lightening the hammer. Many users prefer to retain single action capability and/or do not wish to limit themselves to using Federal primers. There is more than one way to skin a cat. M.D. Charlton did an action job on my K-38 and they did not lighten the hammer; I'm sure that one of the foremost S&W tuning shops in Canada knows what they're doing.
 
It would be nice, but how does shipping in and out of the states work?

Easy; just don't 'ship' across the border. Instead, take a three week vacation in the US and bring your revolver. Mike's turaround time is two to three weeks including shipping time. And all 'perfectly legal'.

As for name dropping a custom gun smith his name is Ian Jones (myself). I make no statement about better than any one else but I am good with an India stone, and the locking mechanism is easily removed if your really that concerned about it. Either way I'm happy with it, and that's really all that maters to me.


Bully for you! I guess high standards are not for everyone. ;)


If you read the description of Mike Carmoney's action work, the internal lock can simply be removed if lightening the hammer is required. At the worst, this means that the trigger pull must be a couple ounces heavier if you need the gun to be IDPA compliant by retaining the lock. I seriously doubt that there are many shooters good enough to tell the difference.

To date I've had four of my revolvers 'Carmonized' (S&W Models 19, 66, 610 & 625). I've had 'trigger jobs' done by some Canadian smiths (admittedly, I've never used Charlton) and Mike's work is by far head & shoulders above any of them. He is also a multi-discipline revolver Master class shooter so he knows what's needed in order to be really competitive.

Not all action jobs entail lightening the hammer. Many users prefer to retain single action capability and/or do not wish to limit themselves to using Federal primers. There is more than one way to skin a cat. M.D. Charlton did an action job on my K-38 and they did not lighten the hammer; I'm sure that one of the foremost S&W tuning shops in Canada knows what they're doing.

Although I've only 'dabbled' in PPC (more than 10 years ago), all the serious competitors that I remember had 'bobbed' hammers on their revolvers. And IIRC, they also used Federal primers exclusively. I guess it all depends on how competitive an individual wants to be.

All my 'Carmonized' revolvers retain single action capability although I don't see a situation where I might need it in a competition like IPSC/USPSA, IDPA or ICORE. That being said, I do practice engaging the single action notch on my 'Carmonized' revolvers 'at speed' and it's not that difficult to do.

I spend quite a bit of my disposable income travelling to matches. I go to those competitions in order to 'place' the best I possibly can. I'm going to ensure my equipment is the best that I can afford (including state-of-the art modifications and tuning) in order to meet that goal. YMMV.
 
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