S&W M&P 22 or Sig Sauer (GSG) 1911 22?

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So ive narrowed it down to these two pistols, and im torn between them.

They both feel excellent in my hand and both have decent triggers. I also am looking at purchasing a S&W M&P 9 in the future, as well as a 1911 in 9mm or .45 so they would both work for a good trainer pistol shooting the low priced .22lr round.

Here's my only issue, it appears that after talking to several M&P 22 owners, there are no spare parts to be found in Canada, and if a problem were to arise (which im sure there will as i will be putting lots of rounds through it) the gun would have to be sent to S&W (im not sure where that would be located, U.S or Canada, and how one would send their pistol?). A couple people i talked to have been waiting for 18 months to get their M&P 22 back, for as simple as a broken take down lever etc. To me that's unacceptable, and is one of the major factors keeping me from buying the M&P 22 as opposed to the Sig (GSG).

On the plus side with the GSG, the authorized service center and Canadian distributor (Blue Line Solutions) is right near me in Vancouver, so if any problems arise they're a ten minute drive away. The GSG also has aftermarket parts available, and about 80% of 1911 parts will fit.

So... I'm really torn. I love the M&P 22 but that damn lack of support and no parts availability cloud is really glooming over my potential purchase.

What do you guys think? Any imput or info that will push me to either one?

Help!!!

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I've owned them both, and wound up selling the M&P. Not because it wasn't any good, but because I was getting rid of its 9mm big brother. The M&P in my experience fed any hv .22 ammo I put in it, the Sig that I have is a lot more picky, even with the rail finish polished off and a couple of thousand rounds through it.

As someone on these boards pointed out to me, the M&P .22 is actually an internal hammer fired pistol, not a striker fired, so ergonomically it's the same as it's big brothers but in the trigger department not at all. They are both well made and fun to shoot so you aren't really going to go wrong with either; based on .22 ammo availability right now I might go with the Smith over the Sig just to not have to worry about always being able to find the brand that works in the gun.

My .02.
 
Hiya,
I have the M&22 and I love it. In no time flat I've put thousands of rounds through it with nary a hiccup. I didn't know about the lack of service = but there is a small company on Vancouver Island that supposedly does S&W factory warranty work. Although I've never dealt with them. I have a Mossburg 715 with ammo issues so the fact that the GSG has these same kind of issues makes me wary because it's very, very frustrating to have a gun that doesn't shoot reliably. Even a 22. Also, I do have the M&P9 which is also a great gun to shoot but the ammo is much more expensive. It is really nice to have the matching set. And finally, if it's accuracy you're looking for - go with the Buckmark Camper = I have the rosewood edition. Extremely accurate, always shoots anything I feed it and it feels great in the hand.
Cheers
 
Based on your decision making process I believe you already have the answer.....even though the GSG/Sig's smell funny.
 
johNTO said:
Based on your decision making process I believe you already have the answer.....even though the GSG/Sig's smell funny.
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Lol, if i had my answer i wouldn't of posted... Perhaps i was hoping someone could shed more light on the lack of parts availability or how someone would go about getting their M&P 22 fixed and what the process would involve if it came to that. While i think the M&P 22 has the slight edge for me, i still cant pull the trigger on purchasing knowing that there are no parts available for a 22. And 22's parts tend to break after a while (springs etc.).

But again, there's pros and cons to both, and am trying to figure it which outweighs the others.
 
I would go with the GSG.

One thing to consider about parts and such is that it really shouldn't be an issue. That is to say - you should get ALOT of use out of it before things start failing and you need to replace worn parts. So in my opinion, that's kind of not really a valid argument - unless maybe, you get that one crappy unit that was manufactured at 4:20 on a Friday.

But along similar lines - you'll find the GSG is much more customizable. It comes down to parts availability.

Sounds to me, though, that you like the M&P. So go for it. Cross that other bridge when (and if) you need to.
 
My local gun shop steered me away from the MP22 because they had to fabricate a part for one that had broken. (I didn't ask which part). Not a great vote of confidence but many people are happy with theirs and I have found the couple I have shot were decent. If you want an MP9/40/45 it might be worth the potential hassle to have the same feel in a cheaper caliber.

The GSG/Sig is decent. I have shot a few and own the GSG conversion for my Rem R1. All in all, they have a few things going for them (low cost, same feel as their center-fire brethren) but they aren't as reliable as a Ruger Mk III or Browning Buckmark.

The inertia of a full slide, even if it's alloy, is much harder for a .22LR to overcome than the plunger on a Ruger or similar pistols.
 
I have the GSG. I do enjoy shooting it. It is picky on the ammunition. I do recommend getting the blue line upgrade kit. It has a steel guide rod, spring ,barrel bushing. and a slide alignment cone. Ive noticed an increase in accuracy with this upgrade. If I had to do it over again I would go with the Ruger Mark III.
 
i have them both.
they both run flawlessly for me.

i love the M&P because i have the normal M&P's in 9, 40, 45 and 9 PRO.
i love the sig 1911-22 because i have..... a lot of 1911's.

i wouldnt give up either of them as i use them to train for the centerfire's that i have in the same frame.

for the price get both.
your talking $400 each.
 
Honestly never shot the M&P...but my gsg was fantastic...first pistol I bought, guide rod broke and blueline replaced it free of charge, other than that it ran and ran....kept it lubed, but 500 rounds per range visit...sold it on ee, missed it so much I've bought another...
 
I've got a GSG1911. I adjusted the rear (plastic) sight and stripped the thread. My fault for overtightening. Called the distributor nd hey shipped he part for free. When he envelope arrived the paper was ripped and the part was missing. (Canada Post sorting machine probably). I called the distributor again and hey shipped me another sight...IMMEDIATELY, NO QUESTIONS.

I love companies that stand behind their products. I will always recommend them. (Knock, knock...are you listening Remington???)

Also, the gun is a great product. I seemed to shoot better with the GSG than my (since sold) Sig P226 .22lr conversion. Both were awesome, but slightly tighter groups with my GSG. I like.
 
Can't speak about the M&P (never shot one),but my two GSG are recomendable...as come from factory,they need HV ammo for reliability,they work with standard ammo,too but then you have to load only 7 instead of 10. My second one has an upgraded spring kit installed and the steel guide rod.5000 rounds later,the finish is definitely worn, BUT the thing runs fail free on walmart 555 rds winchester value packs (Non HV) as long as you clean the chamber every 300 rds. GSG provides a neat little angeled brush for that.
 
or here, same gun just TOTALLY tricked out and machined and..... well just look at it and drool.
dont ask for the price, you'll cry.
just look at it and dream.
touch it with your eyes, caress it with your retina.

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wayupnorth said:
or here, same gun just TOTALLY tricked out and machined and..... well just look at it and drool.
dont ask for the price, you'll cry.
just look at it and dream.
touch it with your eyes, caress it with your retina.

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OMG she's nice. I hear ya, my 10/22 started off as a little side project and $1000.00 later and im still not done! lol Hitting 1cm groups at 50 yds though ;)

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