S&W M&P owners who have switched to the 2.0

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I own the original version of the Smith and Wesson, Military and Police in 9mm luger.

I would like to eventually upgrade to a five in. slide 2.0 Until they are available, the prices are so good on the regular models, that I'm wondering if I shouldn't pick one up. I do like the 1.0, but I can see the advantages of the trigger and improved texturing of the newer model.

My question to those who have switched is simple. Is the upgrade really worth it until I can get my hands on the longslide? Is it worth while and noticeable?
 
this guy says trigger is pretty much the same on both , texturing and grips on 2.0 is a bit more aggressive than on 1 ...

 
this guy says trigger is pretty much the same on both , texturing and grips on 2.0 is a bit more aggressive than on 1 ...

He also states that the holsters aren't compatible but they are...

To the OP:

There's no point in switching, wait for the 5" you want. The trigger on the early model 1.0's were trash but the late model 1.0's are less trash and close, if not identical, to the 2.0.
 
Worthwhile for me.. I love the new grip.. you may not like it as it's personal preference.
Reset is good, better than my G1 with the apex reset kit, new trigger still has that spongy M&P thing feeling.. the kinda like delay in shooting thing.. not crisp like glock..
 
I own a 1st gen M&P9, recently I was able to compare triggers while in Reliable Gun. Had a 1.0 and a 2.0 M&P9 side by side, trigger is nicer when dry firing, I found it not as mushy and reset was a bit better. Grip texture was more aggressive as well, that being said I have not had the chance to fire one yet.
 
I was going to settle on an M&P pistol and I was comparing the two. Trigger pull on the 2.0 averages 5.5lbs while the 1.0 is closer to 7Lbs. I ended up with a CZ. The pistol that I wanted.
 
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I've been a 1.0 owner since 2012 and have many thousands of rounds through a couple pistols. I got a 2.0 earlier this year. Here are my random thoughts:
-The biggest draw for me was the stippling. It's unbelievably grippy and makes a huge difference in controlling the pistol. Yes, I know you can do the skateboard tape but this is better than any tape job I've ever seen.
-The trigger is lighter and the reset is shorter, but I never had a problem with the 1.0 triggers. I actually had a Apex kit in it and went back to the stock trigger. Despite what the internet says, a broken in 1.0 trigger isn't bad. The Apex kit isn't an inexpensive alternative either ($200+), so if a better trigger is what you're after you won't be too far off financially by selling your current 1.0 and buying a new 2.0 relative to upgrading your current gun. If you compete in IPSC the Apex trigger will also prevent you from shooting in production.
-My experience is that 1.0 holsters work but are not seamlessly interchangeable. I have a couple Safariland ALS holsters for my 1.0 and although the 2.0 works it's not as smooth as with the 1.0.
-I too was originally looking for a 5" version, but got tired of waiting and the price on the 4.25" was right so I ended up going for it. I now have a back up pistol which is nice when attending matches, etc, since all my gear (mags, holsters, etc) will work with both pistols and my carrying costs of having an extra pistol on hand is relatively low.

When the 5" become available I'll probably sell the 4.25" 2.0 to get one.
 
^My thoughts exactly, heck, if the 1.0 used prices would go down, I might buy a back up to my 1.0. Broken in, my trigger is at 6lbs 6oz and the slide is smooth as butter. I can fix the grip with tape, but god I wish they had a positive reset, but I do shoot IPSC and I'm not paying 200$ for an Apex...
 
I have both, the guy who said the triggers are the same is wrong, I put the apex kit in my 1.0 but don't feel the need to in the 2.0.
For some reason I find I can shoot my 2.0 with much tighter groups, maybe it's psychological haha.
It's well worth the money for the 2.0 IMO
 
Just waiting for a CORE version of the 2. That said, I am confused about the reset comments. Either when practicing or shooting matches I have yet to hear or feel the reset on any of my guns. In fact I don't wait for the reset. Earnest Langdon among others teach releasing the trigger fully. It is his opinion shooters are faster when they shoot this way, This mirrors my own experience. True when sitting at home in front of the tV the reset is more audible on some guns then others but when shooting at speed......

The Apex Duty Kit will give you a 5#+ trigger if you are trying to keep the trigger weight over 5#s. I also found putting a regular trigger return spring in a Pro will keep your trigger pull weight above 5#s.

PPQ or S&W PRO CORE is my present dilemma.

Take Care

Bob
 
I have both, the guy who said the triggers are the same is wrong, I put the apex kit in my 1.0 but don't feel the need to in the 2.0.
For some reason I find I can shoot my 2.0 with much tighter groups, maybe it's psychological haha.
It's well worth the money for the 2.0 IMO

What the reviewer really said was that there's no much difference in trigger between last release of gen 1 and gen 2.

First released M&P 1,0 trigger may be well worse than Gen 2, for sure.

Just curious, how old is your v1.0 you compare to the 2 ?
 
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