S&W M&P15 Sport II ammunition

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Question for those who have the S&W, what bulk ammo shoots best? I know every rifle is different, and it's not going to be any kind of long range precision rifle, but was wondering if something a little heavier than 55gr would work better with the 1 in 9" twist barrel.
 
Pretty much everything in bulk you will find will be 55 gr FMJ bullets. You can get 1000 rounds for about $400 when the price is right. Start with that. You won't shoot 1/2" groups at 100 yards that's for sure, but that's not what you buy a M&P 15 for.
 
I did a quick search not long ago, and there wasn't a definitive answer. If you wish to know what shoots best out of your particular firearm, it's best to get a selection to try out, then go from there. If you don't really mind it not being the most accurate firearm you own, just buy some bulk ammo and go have some fun. SFRC is having a sale on right now and you can find a 1000 rounds for well under 400 bucks. I think the promo code is "bill".
 
I tried every ammo under the sun and that gun just is not meant to get better grouping then 2" at 100yrd, it's a budget rifle and shots as such. That's not to say it's a bad rifle just don't have any expectations with precision. With bulk ammo you'll get 3"-4" groups. But if you wait till black Friday I was able to get a international barrel for $180 and it will shoot near 1" with federal premium.
 
Remington 55gr range bucket has been by far the most accurate / reliable for me. 60gr seems to be the preferrd weight. I reload but still use the range bucket on occaision when on sale. Mine will shoot .5" to .75" 5 shot groups with 60gr handloads IF i can do my part.
 
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Cabela's has their Remington Freedom Buckets (300 rounds) on sale for $129.99 right now, pretty good price if you don't want to start off buying 1000 rounds.
 
Mine is plenty accurate, the shooter has to do his part as well. The key is to shoot - plenty; know your firearm. Too much blaming the the gun, the ammo etc.
Those that shoot well shoot a lot no matter what firearm they use.
Jerry Miculek who is well above your average AR 15 shooter has plenty of kind words for the S&W, so those that disparage that firearm I personally ignore.
Google him and see for yourself and form your own opinions.
 
welder179 said:
I tried every ammo under the sun and that gun just is not meant to get better grouping then 2" at 100yrd, it's a budget rifle and shots as such. That's not to say it's a bad rifle just don't have any expectations with precision. With bulk ammo you'll get 3"-4" groups. But if you wait till black Friday I was able to get a international barrel for $180 and it will shoot near 1" with federal premium.
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Every rack grade AR shoots 3"-4" probably even 5" groups with bulk ammo, anyone who claims/thinks that a run of the mill AR does any better with bulk ammo is lying. Hand loads and premium ammo is a different story.
 
Nothing wrong with the M&P 15 Sport II. I had the original, no forward assist/dust cover. With 55 gr V-Max and W748 it was consistently sub MOA (barely, but it could do it).

Projectile's should be in the 55gr-69gr range. You probably can shoot 75/77gr match bullets although they may be a little borderline in a given rifle, or cold weather. Avoid 68gr Hornady Match, and any 62gr Ball, they won't likely stabilize...at least not at the altitude I reside at.

As for what will shoot what, general statements about what loaded ammo will shoot well out of a given rifle are likely to be wrong. I wouldn't expect much from any bulk/surplus ammo, but any other factory fodder may shoot very well. perhaps better than "Match" ammo. The only way to find out is to shoot it. You could get lucky and find something that shoots around MOA off the shelf. In the end though nothing beats a loaded round tailored to your rifle.

I'll make a prediction and say a 55/60gr FB bullet like the Hornady V-Max, or similar, and H4895/Varget/W748/similar will give you the best groups.
 
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