S&W MP 9 Shooting Low? -UPDATE-

It might not be the shooter:
I was out firing a brand new S&W M&P9 (20 rounds thru it when I set my paws on it) and I had to use a very high 12 O' clock hold. While I am a handgun novice and so this *could* be contributed to flinch, two other veteran handgunners (one of whom also owned an M&P9) shot it and found that it hit way high. It was four-ish inches high at 7 yards and a lot more than that at 20.
 
Shooting low with my 1911 too, I will try the $.25 / quarter coin balance trigger pull and supported shooting with lighter reloads.... thanks for the discussion in this forum...
 
It might not be the shooter:
I was out firing a brand new S&W M&P9 (20 rounds thru it when I set my paws on it) and I had to use a very high 12 O' clock hold. While I am a handgun novice and so this *could* be contributed to flinch, two other veteran handgunners (one of whom also owned an M&P9) shot it and found that it hit way high. It was four-ish inches high at 7 yards and a lot more than that at 20.

Yep, always worthy bore sighting if in doubt. My M&P was shooting way high and sure enough, a laser bore sight showed that the POI was ridiculously high about the POA--totally off the paper at the far end of an indoor range. Gun is currently in for warranty service.
 
Go to the range and get a buddy to load a mag with a mix of live ammo and snap caps.

Then you shoot the mag. If you get to a snap cap and you dip the barrel you have a flinch.

If not then it has to be the sights.

You're probably dipping the barrel.
 
OK...so it was operator error.

First, before I went out, I changed to the large backstrap, which, when finally at the line made a noticeable positive difference. Two handed unsupported, I was hitting where I was aiming AND I noticed I have a nasty (barrel) downward flinch. Caught myself more than a few times, stop...relax...breathe...squeeze.

Two handed off a bench and was impressed with where I was hitting...

So, all the underbreath cursing at S&W...I take back.

Thanks all.
 
OK...so it was operator error.

First, before I went out, I changed to the large backstrap, which, when finally at the line made a noticeable positive difference. Two handed unsupported, I was hitting where I was aiming AND I noticed I have a nasty (barrel) downward flinch. Caught myself more than a few times, stop...relax...breathe...squeeze.

Two handed off a bench and was impressed with where I was hitting...

So, all the underbreath cursing at S&W...I take back.

Thanks all.

at least you know what it is now! just practice from here on out
 
Both my M&P 9 and M&P 40 have this same problem. I found instead of keeping my front sight flush with the rear, I had to keep the front sight a little higher than the rear.

I thought it was shooter error, but a friend that I work with shot both 9 and 40 and had the same problem.
 
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