SA Socom II Article

[X-man]

Just finished reading an article on Springfield's new SOCOM II. Looks like the writer had the same problem with the full length rail causing ejected cases to bounce back into the chamber and cause stovepipe jams like the newer ARMS #18 mounts are wont to do. You'd think SA would've put a little more thought into the design! Can't say as the accuracy the writer reported impressed me either. Of course that could be "operator" error, but I thought the rifle should be yielding a little better groups than it did. Anybody else read it? Comments?

 

[sprint]

Dont know about Socom II.

I own a Socom 16. The only mod I have on mine is a NM spring guide. 4000 + rounds through and one stoppage. Not bad in my book.

While groups are nothing to write home about at 100m, I pop steel chickens in this config with Port surplus at 400 without any real trouble.

You're welcome to hypothesize as to why - bullets stabilizing after 200m - whatever. I'm not a ballistics engineer, but annecdotaly speaking about the performance of my rifle I can tell you I am consistently under a foot at 400.

From where I sit, that's nothing to cry about.

 

[gpwolf]

Socom

I read that article too and another one a year or 2 ago and that's why i said to myself a the time there's noway i'm paying $2500 for a rifle that shoots that bad. What i consider bad compared to my bolt gun. As well in the older article the rifle had what were diagnosed as slam fire issues and the gun was returned for a different one.The socom in the recent article was scoped, and shorter barrels are typically more accurate, not less. Anyway, I'm getting way better groups than that out of my Norc which is leupold scoped, and my head space is waaay better than both of friends new 700 ADL Rem 30.06's puchased about a year apart. Regardless both of Rem's shoot pretty well. If i ran Springfield i'd be ashamed, and worried if the Norc's could be imported to the U.S.A.. I just don't think you get what you pay for with these and i can't afford the bling. Maybe i just got real lucky with my Norc and maybe we expect to much from magazine writers. Any comments? LOL

 

[sprint]

I read that article too and another one a year or 2 ago and that's why i said to myself a the time there's noway i'm paying $2500 for a rifle that shoots that bad. What i consider bad compared to my bolt gun. As well in the older article the rifle had what were diagnosed as slam fire issues and the gun was returned for a different one.The socom in the recent article was scoped, and shorter barrels are typically more accurate, not less. Anyway, I'm getting way better groups than that out of my Norc which is leupold scoped, and my head space is waaay better than both of friends new 700 ADL Rem 30.06's puchased about a year apart. Regardless both of Rem's shoot pretty well. If i ran Springfield i'd be ashamed, and worried if the Norc's could be imported to the U.S.A.. I just don't think you get what you pay for with these and i can't afford the bling. Maybe i just got real lucky with my Norc and maybe we expect to much from magazine writers. Any comments? LOL

You should really spend less time inventing dialogue, and more time shooting an SA.

 

[Brutus]

Interesting read on your SOCOM sprint.

I find that my T-26 308 copy with a 18.5 inch barrel to be fairly similar. Have only shot it to 300 on gongs though. It did eat up an older Redfield pistol scope. Which is too bad cause at 100 yards I was getting consistant 1.5 inch groups from a rest with the scope on 6 power.

Silverback actually had the better shooting at 300 more often than me.

Now it is graced with a Leupold scout scope 2.5, and no problems at +300 rounds....

This was a hard find as I have only come across two other Tanker Garand copies.

It is like a treasure hunt for a "reasonably" priced Mk 3 Sterling Police Carbine,
in other words almost impossible.

 

[catwork]

Socom II

I love my socom II I don't care what anyone says it is one of my fav guns shoots great never had any jams. I love the rail system too I mounted a M6 light and laser on it waiting for my vltor stock and Eotech site from Wolverine.

Springfield ROCKS

 

[Oddbawl]

Brutus,
Any issues with that tanker? Is it a custom job or a kit? Numrich sells a .308 kit I've been mulling over. Sounds like you're running a scout set up too, are you? To me that would be the ultimate setup. I want to convert one of mine bad, I just can't get very much info from those that have them. Lots of speculation and internet rumour from people who have nothing good to say about them, yet never owned or fired one. (an irritating aspect to the internet, plenty of armchair experts) I'd love some pics or any info you can pm me or post here.

 

[Brutus]

Sent PM, this rifle was already assembled when I bought it. The regular data on malfuntions of the Garand still apply thank God.
I found that some parts were out of alignment, such as the Op Rod catch assembly, and no where EXCEPT the Culnhausen Book
( spelled wrong i am sure!) led me to the cause. Time and again in this book borrowed from Silverback, bless him! it stated when unsure of faulty operation causes, compare a proven fully functioning M1, to one that is not.

Thankfully I had my other full length rifle handy and comparing the two fully assembled in the open magazine area, led me to resolve any problems.
Once you get it functioning I strongly suggest you get a good quality optical site. For example my Tanker came with a Burris Scout scope and the reticles were crooked as I got it. I mounted a very old Redfield 2-6 power handgun scope and within 80 rounds kicked that crosshair out of place too. Now a Leupold 2.5 scout scope sits on it and after 300-400 rounds, no problems at all.
Even with the Smith Enterprize Brake, hoo boy, you would believe this to be a 300 Winchester Magnum calibre rifle just by the report...
After a day at the range with this carbine, just because the barrel is so close to you, you will have " Magnum Face," as so aptly Silverback names it.

Once we had it operating fine, the true ability to shoot well for such a small rifle became obvious. No problem ringing the 300 yard 12 x 12 inch gong....using the Leupold 2.5 scope. I do miss that 2-6 Redfield though, I had under 2 inch groups at 100 yards, no sweat.
Another addition to this post, reguarding the very foward handguard, if it causes you greif,you really do not need it, and mine often cracks as it is wood and painted black. I would do without it, in retrospect.

I will try to post some pics in the few days....

 

[sprint]

Once we had it operating fine, the true ability to shoot well for such a small rifle became obvious. No problem ringing the 300 yard 12 x 12 inch gong....

Yes Brutus - that's my experience too, though I gotta admit some initial skepticism while buying mine.

And who could blame me, considering the stories I read regarding the short barreled 7.62. The mindless drivel consisted largely of lies and misdirection spanning to both sides of the pro vs con spectrum.

So personal experience with firearms aside, I decided to buy one and make my own assessment.



And was I ever pleasantly surprised! The reality for me has been ownership of a handy SBR. And with the OOB capabiltiy to reach out 500+ yards, getting caught owning one isn't the same as getting caught riding the fat chick...