I said maybe, Don't get me wrong , no sarcastic here , I said that because we Don't have in OIC list, pls don'tthink negative , I don't know what RCMP is doing or how they decide base on old data.
Sad story of my M14 .
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I said maybe, Don't get me wrong , no sarcastic here , I said that because we Don't have in OIC list, pls don'tthink negative , I don't know what RCMP is doing or how they decide base on old data.
Blastattack
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It doesn’t matter what the heel stamp is, it’s undeniably an M14 or ANY VARIANT OR MODIFIED VERSION. M305s do t say M14, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are an M14 or ANY VARIANT OR MODIFIED VERSION.
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As above; you call it an M14 yourself several times in the post and the title.
Theoretically if it was your rifle then you are currently authorised to possess it. Whether it was in your safe at home on 1 May when the Order In Council came down, or it was in the hands of the cops.
However, the way you tell it, it appears the RCMP never believed the rifle was *yours*, as they intercepted it in the import process. They consider it belongs to the importer, and thus only deal with them.
I assume the importer believes it IS yours, as they took and kept your payment? That's a pickle...
When the RCMP SFSS boys are done dragging their heels on it, they should return it to the owner. Unfortunately, it may be the case at that time that the mandatory buy-back/de-activation has taken effect, and thus either you or the importer will only get the pay-out or a welded blob returned.
(I don't know the intricacies, and I'll assume the T44E4 is not a Converted Auto or otherwise barred from import prior to the OIC. This is what the lab. was trying to determine all that time. But you did say the importer erroneously listed it as a Springfield T44E4 and call that a machine gun? How is that an error; isn't that what it is stamped? I don't see T44E4 as a designation in Section 89 of the Schedule of the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted (SOR/98-462), or the version pre-dating the OIC.)
Northern Amateur
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I hope you get this figured out. This whole story is a classic example of how messed up our current system is. Even calling the RCMP and getting an opinion over the phone differs from what others may conclude, especially other LEO's. Innocent people could be facing criminal charges because NO ONE actually knows what the hell is going on!!
This is precisely why the whole Firearms Act needs to be re-written by people who know what they are doing AND in the best interest of everyone. Exactly what the CPC said they want to do.
OP, keep at the RCMP and the importer. Spend a few dollars if necessary and have a lawyer draft you up/send a couple letters. The whole thing in ridiculous at best!
cheers,
This is precisely why the whole Firearms Act needs to be re-written by people who know what they are doing AND in the best interest of everyone. Exactly what the CPC said they want to do.
OP, keep at the RCMP and the importer. Spend a few dollars if necessary and have a lawyer draft you up/send a couple letters. The whole thing in ridiculous at best!
cheers,
what if there is a AR platform that is not in the list is non restricted ?
that is exactly Liberal want you to understand the meaning of variant to take over your rifle.
we have some AR that is not in the list , now tell me are those guns are banned too ?
by the way , OIC law regarding item purchased before 1.may.2020 from sellers must be shipped to the buyers, I still have a chance to get my property , then I can decide to sell it to the government or deactivate it, even if we pass 1.may.2022 and even if liberals wins majority .
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" However, the way you tell it, it appears the RCMP never believed the rifle was *yours*, as they intercepted it in the import process. They consider it belongs to the importer, and thus only deal with them.
" YES exactly ,
" I assume the importer believes it IS yours, as they took and kept your payment? That's a pickle... "
THAT IS CORRECT,
" When the RCMP SFSS boys are done dragging their heels on it, they should return it to the owner. Unfortunately, it may be the case at that time that the mandatory buy-back/de-activation has taken effect, and thus either you or the importer will only get the pay-out or a welded blob returned."
POSSIBLE
""" (I don't know the intricacies, and I'll assume the T44E4 is not a Converted Auto or otherwise barred from import prior to the OIC. This is what the lab. was trying to determine all that time. But you did say the importer erroneously listed it as a Springfield T44E4 and call that a machine gun? How is that an error; isn't that what it is stamped? I don't see T44E4 as a designation in Section 89 of the Schedule of the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted (SOR/98-462), or the version pre-dating the OIC.) """"
LRB T44E4 is only semi auto clone version of T44E4 Springfield armory full auto , My guess is they don't have such a brand in their on chart list to put it in classification categories NR R PH , While the only brand/model the same name is full auto in Springfield Armory mark/brand and it is prohibited.
thanks , I do not give up , I call them once per week until I get the answer. I am looking for a good firearm/criminal defense lawyer ,
Blastattack
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I’m sure there are many AR15s not on “the list”, but that doesn’t make them any less prohibited. It’s not about belief, it’s the simple and pure fact of life.
No matter what the classification will be, I spoke today with 1-800-731-4000 agent over the phone , they found my rifle, inspected already last year and they don't know what classification yet because OIC 1.May.2020
I am very happy at least I found the item ,
She said even if it is prohibited we have to return it back to your seller and he has to ship it to you because purchased before 1.may.2020 and they need some documents he has to provide ,
She said it is your choice to sell it to the government or keep it as a prohibited device if classification status become prohibited( she said she doesn't know , it is not registered in the system )
they found it with serial number , I was over the phone today 3.5 hrs. now I am going into the next step.
Brutus
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What does it really matter if it's registered or not?
-its an M14 or M1A variant
-they know your name
-they know your address it's being shipped to
-they most certainly will have now a record of your conversation with them and you providing information
Defacto registry
at least I will save 2k ,
what if CPC wins in this election? what if C21 is getting repeal ?
what if this one was your rifle and you paid for it ? still worth it to get it back ?
