Saddle up boys, it's offficial.

BACKGROUND
On the Assault Weapons Ban:

Rather than working with community safety advocates, the current Conservative government has effectively undermined gun control legislation in Canada.

For example, the list of prohibited firearms maintained by the federal government is now dangerously out of date. The list identifies a particular type of gun and declares it to be prohibited. However, the industry and gun dealers have become very good at circumventing this system. They make tiny adjustments to a prohibited weapon – this adjustment technically makes it a different gun then the one that is prohibited and it is thus legal to own in Canada.

The result of this is too many military assault rifles – weapons that have absolutely no legitimate connection to hunting or sport shooting – are now legally owned and available in this country.

Military assault rifles are defined as fully-automatic and selective-fire rifles along with selected semi-automatic rifles designed for military purposes and possessing military features such as: use of a large capacity magazine, folding/telescoping stock, a protruding pistol grip, a bayonet mount, or threaded muzzle or flash suppressor. It is these military features – features whose sole purpose is to render the rifle a more effective tool for killing other people – which make these rifles a threat to public safety.


While fully-automatic rifles have been prohibited since 1978, many of the semi-automatic rifles with these military features are still not prohibited.

Banning these weapons would not require additional legislation. They can be added to the current list of prohibited weapons through an Order-In-Council.

This proposed prohibition would not cover semi-automatic rifles which do not contain these military features. A new Liberal government will not prohibit semi-automatic rifles with a legitimate connection to hunting and sport shooting.

In his report, published September 4, 2008, Coroner Jacques Ramsay called for a ban on the type of military assault weapon used by Kimv**r Gill in the Dawson College shootings on September 13, 2006.

This prohibition would cover the short-barrelled Beretta CX4 Storm rifle which was obtained legally by Kimv**r Gill and used in the Dawson College shootings two years ago and the Mini-Ruger 14, the weapon used by Marc Lepine at L’Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal in December 1989 to kill 14 young women.
On Changes to the Firearms Advisory Committee:

The Firearms Advisory Committee has existed since the days of Kim Campbell.

First the Progressive Conservatives and then the Liberals attempted to use the committee to ensure that the Minister responsible for public safety received balanced and informed advice when it came to firearms in this country.

The previous governments ensured that representatives of legitimate, law-abiding firearms owners sat next to representatives of our national police organizations, health and safety experts and true proponents of gun control.

Stockwell Day has radically altered the make-up of this committee. He has stacked it with pro-gun advocates and removed from it all of those who advocate in favour of gun control and gun safety.

Future appointments to the Firearms Advisory Committee will provide balance to the committee. Legitimate gun-owners will work together with community safety advocates to ensure that the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness receives advice that is balanced.
 
Think about how many firearms you have in the basement that meet the criteria for banning...

They just turned me into a political activist....
 
I am just curious, but if the ban them, what happens to all of us folks that happen to own them? Would the confiscate them? Just thinking hypothetically.. I'm kinda attached to my AR.
 
I am just curious, but if the ban them, what happens to all of us folks that happen to own them? Would the confiscate them? Just thinking hypothetically.. I'm kinda attached to my AR.

I'm curious too. If they come after mine they are getting a stripped lower receiver, at most.
 
They'll grandfather. They are too cheap for compensations and they don't want to face thousands of gun owners in the courts if they confiscate.

Don't count on it for a second. We have no property rights and they can offer nothing if they felt like it. Past performance has indicated that they can and will. Ask UZI owners....or SPAS 12s.

They have already said in the press announcement that they will do it by order in counsel and will not seek a vote from parliament. That means we can wake up in the morning and find out that any firearm with a bayonet lug, pistol grip, flash hider, magazine, or is semi auto, might be required to be turned in for destruction. They could do it if they wanted to. Don't forget, the people that own these firearms, are now not going to vote liberal so it is not going to effect their powerbase. They don't care.... there are no regs or laws that say they have to grandfather....

Don't move into any level of comfort that they will not go all the way....the will. Putting gun control advocates as advisors....best get use to single shot rifles gents....these are the people that laud the Australian and British model of gun control....

Dont forget...an enfield has a detachable magazine and bayonet lug....
 
They'll grandfather. They are too cheap for compensations and they don't want to face thousands of gun owners in the courts if they confiscate.

Bull####. They don't care if they compensate (cause it's the Gov's money, not the people's) and they don't care if they confiscate (because it's for the "public good").

They're the Liberals, they'll do what ever they want because they know what's best for us.
 
Either way, if do try and confiscate it for my AR15's they are getting just a stripped lower. NO pistol grip, BCG, CH, stock, buffer tube, BUIS, Upper, Optics Barrel.... NOTHING other than than the serialized part. Pistols they are only going to get my frames, not my slides or anything else.

Either way, everyone needs to fight this as hard as they can. Donate, campaign, talk to friends and family and send letters.
 
Has anybody bothered to look at the description under "Black and Green Rifles". See above. We ourselves are calling our black rifles "ASSAULT RIFLES" and SMG's for people with...

HELLO - WHATS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE.

If we are going to try and persuade people that black rifles are not assault rifles, maybe we should start with ourselves first? Lets get that fixed.
 
Compensation? Grandfathering? NOPE.

They want them "off the streets"....aka: MELTED.

The Libs have to win only a minority to make this happen.....
They will NOT grandfather, and they will NOT compensate. They A: Arent worried about losing your vote, and B: Have the lawyers they need.

I lost 2 guns during the last bout of confiscation, one of them (and AT-22) the cheque hadn't even cleared yet.

We need to get off our arses, get the CPC a majority, and then hammer them to roll back this crap.

Even a minority win for harper won't help us, as he won't be able to roll back anything with a minority gov't....and the likelyhood of the Libs getting someone waaaay better than Dion and getting there own government next term is a VERY real possibilty.
We have one ONLY chance at saving our BR's...seriously...just this one.

PLEASE help out.
 
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They'll grandfather. They are too cheap for compensations and they don't want to face thousands of gun owners in the courts if they confiscate.

NWEST will come to your house in the middle of the night, shoot your dog in the head, taser your ass and take your guns and youll get nothing...no compensation... they already have the precedent for compensation set back with the SPAS12 and others years ago...

This whole thing disgusts me.
 
Well, I just got off the phone. 3 year membership to the Conservative Party of Canada and a $300 donation. Mr. Dion, you and yours can please feel free to #### off. :)
 
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