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Hey,

I've read a few stories about African Safari's lately, and I'm curious, can you even import the ivory into Canada or the US? Seems like there's a lot of guys taking tusked critters and I didn't think it was legal to import that stuff. Seems an expensive endeavor if you can't bring the most impressive part home, although I'm sure it wouldn't stop some people.

Cheers
 
Hey,

I've read a few stories about African Safari's lately, and I'm curious, can you even import the ivory into Canada or the US? Seems like there's a lot of guys taking tusked critters and I didn't think it was legal to import that stuff. Seems an expensive endeavor if you can't bring the most impressive part home, although I'm sure it wouldn't stop some people.

Cheers

It depends on the country, the hunt you choose and your budget. The most important part of elephant hunting is the actual hunting, tusks are just a momento and conversation piece.
The real trophies are the memories; the mental images, the smell of campfire smoke, and danger that you can taste.
 
It depends on the country, the hunt you choose and your budget. The most important part of elephant hunting is the actual hunting, tusks are just a momento and conversation piece.
The real trophies are the memories; the mental images, the smell of campfire smoke, and danger that you can taste.

The size 200 elephant footie over you just b4 it stomps u into a pool of ooey gooey mush...:p
 
Fair enough, but I would still want my tusks...I was able to talk to a guy at the range this morning whos been on a couple of safaris. Some cool stories but way too rich for this mans blood I tell ya...


Cheers.
 
I don't know about nowadays, but we used to bring home tusks from Sudan by getting the locals to paint pictures on them (with watercolors), which made them 'finished art objects' - which were legal. Raw tusks weren't. Lousy pictures had a habit of washing off. Go figure!
 
Fair enough, but I would still want my tusks...I was able to talk to a guy at the range this morning whos been on a couple of safaris. Some cool stories but way too rich for this mans blood I tell ya...


Cheers.

Most people want their tusks. On the other hand, non-trophy and non exportable ele hunts cost a fraction as much. That can be the difference between going and staying home, or going back twice more for the same money. A similar case could be made for not doing any taxidermy on a plains game hunt.
 
The opportunity to hunt PAC elephants is a relatively popular side to an african hunt. You can book PAC hunts with many outfitters in Africa, and sometimes the opportunity just arises while you are on a hunt. I recently returned from the SCI show down in reno where I booked a hunt with Zambezi Hunters for Cape buffalo, hippo and plainsgame. While talking with other hunters and outfitters the possibility of a PAC elephant is not too far fetched.


Basically a PAC (Problem Animal Cotrol ) elephant hunt allows a hunter to take an elephant for a reduced cost. These elephants are problem animals that are giving local farmers problems, ie destroying crops and generally being a nuisance. Obviously you are not going to take a 50lb elephant on one of these hunts but the experience is worth the price of admission. Its a mutually beneficial type of hunt where you get to hunt an elephant, but the locals get their crops saved and a crapload of meat. Not to mention the opportunity to control the population of elephants in such areas as Zimbabwe.

As far as being importable to the US and Canada, yes elephants are importable from most countries. I have not done an elephant hunt, but will one day. My dad did and elephant hunt in 2006 with HHK, and took a 50lb bull.

When I go on my hunt I would like to bring the tusks home, but would far more enjoy the experience. Taking advantage of a non importable elephant could mean a significant cost savings which could mean going versus not going.
 
You can shoot a tuskless ele for cheap over in Zim as well. The ideal has been rolling around in my head a bit. An ele skull wth a bullet hole in the forehead would make an interesting addition to the trophy room.
 
You can shoot a tuskless ele for cheap over in Zim as well. The ideal has been rolling around in my head a bit. An ele skull wth a bullet hole in the forehead would make an interesting addition to the trophy room.

The tuskless cow hunting will get you more stalks, and is more dangerous than putting the moves on a bull group or solitary bull. Considering that, it could be construed as more hunting for less money.
 
You can bring the tusks back from many countires as long as its not a PAC (Problem Animal control) animal. It is a lot of paper work and a real pain in the ass from the Canadian CITES side. But I was able to bring my Tanzania 07 tusks. I also brought back the ears, a sheet of hide and the rear feet.
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PAC is much cheaper but you won't normally be shoot a large elephant either.

There is a push on now to get Tanzania and Zambia downlisted to CITES II which would mean that there would only need to be an export permit and an import permit would not be needed.
 
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