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Some ideas showing what you can do with a Sage stock. Here's a grouping showing some of the options. Colors shown are Black, OD, and desert tan. Bottom of stack is Socom II in desert tan folder. You can see the complete rig is shorter folded than any of the stocks by themselves when collapsed.

Total length of the package with stock folded is 28". With stock unfolded but collapsed is 36". With stock extended length overall is 39.25 inches. Total weight with empty magazine is 10lb 10oz. Although it does not appear to be the case in the photo, the rifle can easily be fired with either hand with the stock in the folded position. Not sure if it is legal in Canada or not but it fits all the requirements in the U.S.

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M14ALCS, I love the look of the OD one. Was that something that you did yourself, and if so what did you use and how far did you have to disassemble the Sage to do it? You may have just added another step or 2 to my M14 project...:) :redface:
 
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M14ALCS, I love the look of the OD one. Was that something that you did yourself, and if so what did you use and how far did you have to disassemble the Sage to do it? You may have just added another step or 2 to my M14 project...:) :redface:
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We Use Gun Kote for the OD and Norell Moly Coat for the Tan. Completely disassemble and I mean completely. Sand blast all the parts, heat all parts in oven, spray paint the pieces, bake some more. Then reassemble. I've taken them down and put together so many times I can do it pretty fast but if it’s your first time it could take a while. If you have some specific questions let me know and I'll help you out because there are a couple things it helps to know.
http://www.kgcoatings.com/gunkote.html

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Sage International is a Michigan based company. Under Michigan's "unique" BS law, the M 14 with Sage folding stock is a pistol. Yes, a pistol. It must be registered as a pistol. And you guys think Canada has goofy firearm laws. US federal law states the barrel must be 16 " or now it is a SBR-short barreled rifle which is a controlled item which requires an approval and a $200 tax stamp. SBR's are not legal in Michigan even with the tax stamp-------another Michigan "unique" law.
 
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Sage International is a Michigan based company. Under Michigan's "unique" BS law, the M 14 with Sage folding stock is a pistol. Yes, a pistol. It must be registered as a pistol. And you guys think Canada has goofy firearm laws. US federal law states the barrel must be 16 " or now it is a SBR-short barreled rifle which is a controlled item which requires an approval and a $200 tax stamp. SBR's are not legal in Michigan even with the tax stamp-------another Michigan "unique" law.
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Thats beyond stupid.
You said it must be "registered" as a pistol. Does Michigan require pistols to be state registered? And what other controls are applied to pistols?
 
leek said:
Sage International is a Michigan based company. Under Michigan's "unique" BS law, the M 14 with Sage folding stock is a pistol. Yes, a pistol. It must be registered as a pistol. And you guys think Canada has goofy firearm laws. US federal law states the barrel must be 16 " or now it is a SBR-short barreled rifle which is a controlled item which requires an approval and a $200 tax stamp. SBR's are not legal in Michigan even with the tax stamp-------another Michigan "unique" law.
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Sage does not make a folding stock, they make a collapsible stock. I make the folding collapsible stock using the sage chasis. If I'm understanding you an AR-15 with a folding stock is also a pistol? If that's the case that really is dopey. Do you really have to register pistols in Michigan? This is not a short barrel rifle, the rifle is the 16" Socom II with 16" barrel which is legal in all 50 states. (Maybe not in Michigan and some other places with the folding stock though.)

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I'll be gawd damned. I just checked the Michigan gun laws www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/Publications/Firearms.pdf

If a rifle has a folding or contracting stock which will give an over all length less than 30" then its considered a pistol. Now that is one hell of a pistol. If over all length is less than 26" even if barrel is at least 16" it's considered a short barrel rifle in Michigan. My little folder toy would be considered a pistol in Michigan but not an SBR because overall length is more than 26". I wonder what it takes to register a pistol in Michigan. I didn't bother reading the whole 200+ pages of regulations.
 
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