Sako 85 ejection problem

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I have a Sako 85 270 wsm. I tried the Sako low ring mounts with a Leupold vx3i 3x10x40 scope and every ejected brass hits the scope and falls back in, negating any chance of chambering another round. Moving the scope forward or back does not help. On line research has shown this problem seems to be remedied taller mounts by some.
Anyone on here had this issue and solved with taller mounts and if so what did you use? These opti locks are not cheap so I don't want to buy numerous sets and I don't want them too dang high either.
 
I haven't experienced this issue, but I have only had one 85. However, I have read first step is a stronger extractor spring. Then here on CGN a fellow had a new extractor that holds the case tighter to the bolt face made and I believe it worked well for him.

I am a sako guy, however I cant understand why sako wouldn't fix this before it became such an issue. (Well I can say the issues started when beretta took over sako - coincidence? )
 
If that's a brand new setup I would take it back where I bought it and see if they can do anything for you. Some have changed ejector parts with success. I have same action and caliber in Finlight . With vx3L and low optilock rings and bases the brass would clip the adjustment cover cap and mark it but not fall back in. I have switched to sako low ringmounts with a Balvar 1.5-6x40 and now brass clears it cleanly. It's sad to hear of this reoccurring so many years after sop.
 
Seems to be a problem on rifles with scopes that have long turrets. No ejection issues with the Leupold VX-2 1-4x20mm on my 85 Kodiak 375 H&H magnum.

Beretta's position on this issue -

Occasionally, we receive customer complaints regarding Sako rifles ejecting spent cases that either strike the scope or strike the scope turret and fall back inside the action of the rifle. This situation is predominately caused by both the scope mounts and type of scope (particularly scopes with extended turrets) installed on the rifle. A secondary consideration is how rigorously the bolt is operated by the user.

Beretta will not consider rifles that exhibit the condition above to be a warranty issue. Provided that the rifle fully extracts and ejects the spent casing, the rifle will be considered functional and serviceable. Sako Arms cannot anticipate every possible scope mounting configuration when designing their rifles. Since the selection and installation of the scope and mounts are determined by the owner, it is the owner's responsibility to ensure that the system will not interfere with the operation of the rifle.

An extremely small number of rifles have been returned for service for this issue and our analysis has indicated that the combination of scope mounts, scope type and scope turret location in relation to the ejection path of the spent casing have been the proximate cause creating this condition. In order to alleviate this condition, we recommend that the owner try various scope mounting options to find the one that works best.

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I realize ejector placement is constrained because of the 3 locking lugs, but could they not have placed it off set a bit? Is the 75 also at the straight 6 o'clock position?
 
If you don't have a fancy bdc reticle just rotate your scope 90 degrees in the rings. Your windage is now your elevation and vice versa and no turret in the way.
 
I've seen lots of people talking shout this but there are so msny factors to consider. I understand the short mag calibers are more prone to the issue. I've got a 338wm and have no problem. My dad hss a 270wsm woyh no problem. Some videos show people very slowly cycling the bolt and having an issue while it works flawlessly when cycled normally mounting options and scopes are also to be taken into account. Mounting a few mm higher can be a solution.
 
I had this issue on the Sako 85 Kodiak with 3 different scope configurations. The rifle was not usable with a scope on it and hardly suitable for an as advertised "dangerous game rifle". With the highest scope and the smallest turrets I tested the failure to eject rate was still over 50%. Stoeger was of no assistance whatsoever.
 
The sako action looks nice, but thats about it. Ejection problems that could have been easily fixed, weak primary extration and hard bolt lift. All issues that could have been addressed, but I would rather go with a two lug action that has it all right than the 85 action.
 
Yes. this is a new rifle that was purchased from Grouse River that have now closed the doors so no help there.
Scope has a B@C reticle so turning it 90* is not an option. The Leupold does not have large turrets.
It ejects the brass without a scope mounted but not with much authority even when cycling the bolt fast (hard)
When chambering a round from the magazine you also have to do it fairly fast or it gets hung up entering the chamber, this negates any possiblity of quietly chambering a round slowly when hunting.
I talked to Stoeger and they said to send it in for warranty. With the research I have found it seems that they will do nothing about it but I will try anyway.

Not real happy this rifle
 
I had this issue with a 22-250 I purchased....I wont buy any Model 85's. Ridiculous that one has too purchase multiple rings and scopes just to get the rifle to perform reliably.
 
Well, its on its way back east to Stoeger. I am certainly hoping for better support from them from what I have read about on line.
When I hear back I will update this thread for any fellas in the future looking at purchasing one of these rifles.

thanks for the input
 
TSPIRI said:
I've seen lots of people talking shout this but there are so msny factors to consider. I understand the short mag calibers are more prone to the issue. I've got a 338wm and have no problem. My dad hss a 270wsm woyh no problem. Some videos show people very slowly cycling the bolt and having an issue while it works flawlessly when cycled normally mounting options and scopes are also to be taken into account. Mounting a few mm higher can be a solution.
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Can you tell me a bit more about your dads rifle? What scope and rings ?

thanks
 
I've seen lots of people talking shout this but there are so many factors to consider. I understand the short mag calibers are more prone to the issue. I've got a 338wm and have no problem. My dad has a 270wsm with absolutely no problem. Some videos show people very slowly cycling the bolt and having an issue while it works flawlessly when they then cycle the bolt normally as one would in the field. mounting options and scopes are also to be taken into account. Before mounting my scope I asked and was advised the medium optilock for my scope rifle combo to make sure the long brass has no obstructions. They were absolutely right the gun works perfectly.
 
He's got an 85 hunter with a zeiss scope I don't remember exactly what model scope but it's huge I think it's a 4-12×56 with a 30mm tube. As far as what mounts he's using I couldn't tell you. If he ever had a problem he never told me about it.
 
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