Sako 85, rail, and ejection issues - feedback sought

I have a Sako 85 Finnlight short action .243 with a Zeiss 3-9 Conquest in X-lo opticoc rings/bases and although I don't have ejection issues I would like the scope to be lower to suit my eye. The Conquest objective is now .270" above the barrel so it could go quite a bit lower. It seems Sako mounts (even X-Lo) are kept high to avoid the ejection issue. I would like to get a Sako in 300 WM but wont spend all that $$$'s if I can't mount a scope to suit and/or might have ejection issues.

 
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scott_r said:
...If your spending $1800 on a rifle....it better be functioning at 110% or the company better make it right for you not tell you to buy extra high rings and move your scope around.....thats ridiculous....
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Very true, and that statement would make a very fine signature for someone who bought one.

Ted
 
This thread actually got me curious to see how my 85 extracts compared to my uselton arms custom.

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Top one is my sako 85 bottom is my uselton arms. You just have to click on the pictures and it'll bring you to my photo bucket and you can watch them there. They are slow motion videos. Hopefully you can all get them to work. I never realised the empty cartridge was still hitting the turret. The high mounts made it just high enough for the cartridge to fall down and out.

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Pictures to show the windage turrets above and a couple below for fun just to compare cartridges

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Sorry for the big pictures. I couldn't figure out how to make them smaller. Took me long enough to be able to post these lol
 
6 o'clock blade ejector and a weak extractor spring.

Cooper had the exact same problem when they brought out the Model 52. After a short run, they went to a plunger ejector.
 
daka said:
Any ideas on black bear in .308?
What i can figure it out from the comments ,it is only with long action 85's ???
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I had a problem with a 22-250 and there are numerous reports on the net with issues with short actions. .223 in the 85 Varmint is a known offender.

Hopefully the more aware the public is and sales drop they will fix it. Sad to see as Sako makes such a fine shooting gun.

Cheers!!
 
Bowie said:
IMHO the problem is likely overblown as far as actual numbers involved. Either way, a Gre-Tan extrapower extractor spring typically resolves the issue.
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My 85 ejects ok, but I'd like to try the gre-tan spring. Apparently that measley little spring is ITAR controlled.
 
cam1936 said:
Why not just move the ejector to the 8 o'clock position?

Can't remember how the 75 is set up. Where is the ejector there?
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Can't easily go to 8 o'clock with a 3 lug bolt. Here is a pic from left to right the T3, A7, and 85.

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If one were to remove the blade ejector, I bet the A7 bolt would work for a given action length.
 
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If you like Sako quality I think it makes a lot more sense to buy a couple of Tikka's for the price of a single Sako. Anyway that is the conclusion I have come to after owning three Sako 85's and a few Tikka's
 
Got a couple of 85s, and assembled and sighted in several others for friends and have never seen any problems with ejection. Guess I'm just really lucky.
 
blargon said:
Can't easily go to 8 o'clock with a 3 lug bolt. Here is a pic from left to right the T3, A7, and 85.
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Easily how? Make it as cheap as we can "easily"? Mauser M98 had a cut through a lug to place ejector blade at 9 o'clock. End of nineteenth century technology.

Today is year 2015. You can do practically anything with metal for a dime. Look at following and then back at Sako 85 boltface.

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I don't have anything against "simple", but it has to be "works great" simple, not "lets make it cheap" simple.
 
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