Sako Carbonlight introduction, compared against the Kimber Adirondack

We all know clever engineering is undone by NOT RTFM. Blame the equipment.
Folks can't sight in their rifle, understand MOA/MRAD, turn turrets blindly moving POI off paper.

Speaking from observing the inexperience Bubbas

PS. Notice you no longer mind slight derail with luv affair/honeymoon over.
double gun said:
I'm not sure what you want/need. Other rifles with integral bases such as ruger, offer one position for both rings and nobody complains, Yet sako offers more range and people are upset?
I'm not sure what rifles you are needing to shim, but again there is no need for different offset bushing for sako. If you need left or right offset move the front ring forward or back. (The instructions also tell you this :))

Sako has been using the the tapered dovetails since at least 1946 thru multiple series of rifles. If there was a problem, surely they would have changed it by now no?


Speaking from experience.
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Short answer is, the scopes Sako had in mind in '46 no longer resemble the stuff being mounted on rifles these days...in particular, the length between the bells, which more often than not leaves little to work with, forget about trying to set one up to fit the person picking up the tab for the whole shebang!

Somewhere along the way rifle and scope manufacturers veered off in different directions from each other.

Now, too often, with a scope in one hand, and a rifle in the other, the trick is trying to sort out how to marry the two in some reasonable manner that doesn't end up looking like Mickey Mouse had a hand in the works! And that doesn't bugger up the scope right from the get-go!
 
It's to bad nither rifle come with good peep sigh and forget about the scope then you would have a real ultralight Mountain rifle
 
Doesn't take much to mount a front sight, and sako used to make a pretty nifty peep sight that fixes to the rear scope base
 
sir_springer said:
Short answer is, the scopes Sako had in mind in '46 no longer resemble the stuff being mounted on rifles these days...in particular, the length between the bells, which more often than not leaves little to work with, forget about trying to set one up to fit the person picking up the tab for the whole shebang!

Somewhere along the way rifle and scope manufacturers veered off in different directions from each other.

Now, too often, with a scope in one hand, and a rifle in the other, the trick is trying to sort out how to marry the two in some reasonable manner that doesn't end up looking like Mickey Mouse had a hand in the works! And that doesn't bugger up the scope right from the get-go!
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True that.

I'm taking one last kick at the can: I've got a finnlight 300 win mag in one hand, and a VX3i 3.5-10 x 40 in the other, with low Sako Optilock Ringmounts coming in from Grouse River... if this doesn't work, it's going on the EE.
 
beeman2 said:
My Wildcat stock blank was 17.2 oz. That Sako stock is not very light.
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22 oz. is pretty light for a finished stock. Throw on a recoil pad, fill and paint, and let us know the weight on the Wildcat. Not to mention the fact is has to be for a Sako 85. :)

Nothing against Wildcat, but I'd wager a bet the carbon fibre of the Sako is stronger. Not that it's absolutely necessary, but it sure adds to the cool factor.
 
The stock on the Sako is a work of art and admittedly a finer product than the Wildcat. Nothing against the Wildcat stocks and love they're Canadian but they're not producing a product like the Carbon's yet. Let's not forget detachable mag accommodation of excellent quality is part of the Carbon's stock.

MPI will make a stock down to 10oz, but also not the same as this Sako stock. You can pull the rubber butt off the Sako carbon and glue on a piece of neoprene if desired, as the but is closed under the pad with a small lip to center the pad. That would put you on par with the Wildcat I suspect, but a nicer stock. You pay for it though.
 
Carbonlight was also my choice over the kimber, detachable mag, single set trigger and overall a higher quality gun in fit, finish and smoothness of operation are what made it the easy winner
 
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