Sako Carbonlite

bearkilr said:
There's a reason most ultralight's aren't offered in varmint calibers and most 22-250's are still a 1-14" twist. I realize there are a few consumers who'd like a quicker twist but until the majority want it different, it'll remain this way.
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The majority probably just doesn't know the difference and also wouldn't know if they suddenly started selling them w/ a faster twist! There really isn't a downside that I can think of.
 
labrador76 said:
Why do are so may made with a slower twist? Tradition? Or maybe its cheaper?
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No, because the 22-250 is a high velocity varmint caliber, like the 220 Swift, which achieves that velocity with light bullets. The vast majority of users don't want to lob a 80 gr. VLD at a groundhog with rifles chambered in this caliber, they'll just skip it entirely and use a 243 Win, etc. It's also not at all popular with the target crowd, they'll use a 223 if it must be a 22 cal.
Another thing to consider is that fast twist barrels tend to decrease velocity as there's more friction. I remember reading about tests done by the benchrest crowd that a 1-12" twist barrel had 80 fps. over a 1-8" twist barrel with the same projectile and load. I think it was in a 6mm/80 gr.

Anyhow, back to the Sako.
 
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bearkilr said:
No, because the 22-250 is a high velocity varmint caliber, like the 220 Swift, which achieves that velocity with light bullets. The vast majority of users don't want to lob a 80 gr. VLD at a groundhog with rifles chambered in this caliber, they'll just skip it entirely and use a 243 Win, etc. It's also not at all popular with the target crowd, they'll use a 223 if it must be a 22 cal.
Another thing to consider is that fast twist barrels tend to decrease velocity as there's more friction. I remember reading about tests done by the benchrest crowd that a 1-12" twist barrel had 80 fps. over a 1-8" twist barrel with the same projectile and load. I think it was in a 6mm/80 gr.

Anyhow, back to the Sako.
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Well there's a good reason! I hadn't heard one till now. Tks
 
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sheephunter said:
Mid summer is the projected date to have them to Canadian dealers.
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You hear this from Stoeger direct as last year right after the shot show when the general public was already aware of the Sako Black, like we are about the Carbon, Stoeger was well lets say, still in the dark lol.
 
I don't know about this. A guy could almost buy two Kimbers for the likely price of this one. And contrary to popular urban legend, Kimbers do shoot.
 
Walleyewhiz said:
I don't know about this. A guy could almost buy two Kimbers for the likely price of this one. And contrary to popular urban legend, Kimbers do shoot.
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I would buy a kimber Montana or mountain ascent in 22-250, but sadly unavailable. The mountain guys seem to hate the detachable magazine, but as a varmint hunter who is in/out of the truck a lot, it is a bonus on the sako in 22-250. Unfortunately its a $1000 bonus.

Everytime I get excited about this rifle I think about buying 2 tikka superlites, chop 2" off the barrel (1-2 ounce savings) and putting in a McMillan hunters edge stock (5 ounce savings on mine). The .30 caliber superlites are 5.9lb (5lb 14 ounces), with the mods would be 5lb 7 ounces. So for the same money you would have 2 rifles that weigh 7 ounces more each than the sako. Is the sako 2x the rifle that the tikka is?
 
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DMS1 said:
The mountain guys seem to hate the detachable magazine....
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That's mainly because it adds weight, same with most any bottom metal.
Sako probably would've shed another 5-6 oz going with only an alloy trigger guard and blind mag. Now we're looking at weights the same or less than a Mountain Ascent.
They missed the boat a bit on a true lightweight possibility.
 
the finnlights have aluminum triggerguards as are the mag bottoms. I think mountain hunters avoid detachable mags because of added weight, and the chance of losing it up the mountain. I don't see the weight as being a problem here, and the 85 mags are just about impossible to have fall out - you have to push it up, and press the release button at the same time.
 
No clue what's up with the fancy weird indent - outdent thing on the buttstock - much prefer a clean look. Other than that it looks nice on a great action and Sako fit/finish.
 
Looks interesting. Except I always get a bit concerned about recoil and jump in this weight class with certain chamberings.

Must not be so bad with all the gents who love their mountain rifles.

For now, Finnlight is as light as I need. Thanks for sharing.
 
Definitely a nice looking rifle in my opinion.

What I cannot get past, is the price...

A garden variety Finnlight is Roughly $2k

I'm supposed to pay an extra $1k for the pleasure of a carbon fiber stock......?

At $3k + I might as well build a custom.
 
TangoKilo said:
Definitely a nice looking rifle in my opinion.

What I cannot get past, is the price...

A garden variety Finnlight is Roughly $2k

I'm supposed to pay an extra $1k for the pleasure of a carbon fiber stock......?

At $3k + I might as well build a custom.
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Check out prices on Sako stocks, you're paying around $700 US for either a laminate or synthetic factory. Given those prices, a CF should be $1500 or so.
 
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