SAKO claims ?

[remington jim]

SAKO Claims :

All Sako rifles, including the Sako S20, feature match-grade cold hammer forged barrels. There are many advantages to cold hammer forged (CHF) barrels: they’re durable, accurate and have excellent tolerances. The cold hammer forging technique changes the structure of the steel, increasing its toughness and making the barrel life of your rifle longer. CHF barrels do not have to be broken in, but instead have superb out-of-the-box accuracy.


Opinions Please RJ

 

[Buckmastr]

They shoot well. Eject? Well that’s a different story

 

[Rembo]

Sako's barrels have been hammer forged for decades. Nothing new here.

I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of all mass produced OEM rifle barrels are hammer forged. Smaller custom makers are usually button rifled, some are cut rifled.

 

[remington jim]

Sako's barrels have been hammer forged for decades. Nothing new here.

I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of all mass produced OEM rifle barrels are hammer forged. Smaller custom makers are usually button rifled, some are cut rifled.

I think ALL aftermarket barrel manufactures are Cut or Buttoned rifled - and it Seems ALL major rifle manufactures use Hammer Forged barrels ?
Wonder WHY this is ? Prob COST ? RJ

 

[DGY]

Is there a difference between hammer forged and cold hammer forged? So I wonder if Ruger uses the same procedure? Steyr for sure do. Is the technique more of a European thing?

 

[Kelly Timoffee]

They are accurate enough to support their claims in my opinion.

 

[BCBRAD]

I have 5 Benchmark barrels screwed to Tikkas and one Savage. One Tikka with a factory barrel is the best shooter I have (getting long in the tooth now), it actually won me a Benchmark barrel lol.

Also, a I have a Sako M-85 30-06 will hold 'for 3 shots' 0.7 moa and a Steyr 7mm-08 0.6 moa at 1000+ yards, both hammer forged factory barrels.

Small sample to be sure.

 

[starvin]

Could this be why tikka/Sako barrels have a tendency to be “slow”, or is that a myth?

 

[guntech]

Hammer forging starts out cold I believe but the process heats the steel up... All this discussion however is pointless, the factories are making rifles as cheaply as they can so they can sell them and make money.

The process of how a factory barrel is made matters not at all to me...

Hammer forging is a very old process requiring a huge initial expense and produces fine barrels in a few minutes... no after market hammer forging because of the cost...

Button rifling produces fine barrels.

Cut rifling produces fine barrels.

 

[guntech]

Here is a picture of the ugly pig...

 

[BCBRAD]

Generous freebore is most of it, lowers the start pressure therefore the overall pressure thus directly equates to lower velocity.

A handloaders dream!

In reference to post #8

 

[BCBRAD]

Here is a picture of the ugly pig...

If it cooks and cleans plus other household duties......it is a keeper.

 

[Kelly Timoffee]

Here is a picture of the ugly pig...

I think it would be quite comfortable, and I really don't mind the look to be honest.Maybe it will be my second Sako!

 

[remington jim]

guntech : Hammer forging starts out cold I believe but the process heats the steel up...

All this discussion however is pointless, the factories are making rifles as cheaply as they can so they can sell them and make money.

The process of how a factory barrel is made matters not at all to me...


Dennis - Then WHY do you involve yourself if thats your view ? RJ

 

[guntech]

All this discussion however is pointless, the factories are making rifles as cheaply as they can so they can sell them and make money.




Dennis - Then WHY do you involve yourself if thats your view ? RJ

Just pointing out it's pointless. Do you get my point, or is it pointless?

 

[blargon]

Just pointing out it's pointless. Do you get my point, or is it pointless?

Most of the banter on CGN is pointless. Like calibre debates and what the best rifle is.

 

[Hitzy]

Hammer forging makes for a smooth barrel surface, Savage, Remington, Mossberg, Browning still use button/cut rifle barrels, Howa, Sako, Zastava and many others use hammer forged. Both can be very accurate or both can shoot like ####, still boils down to individual rifle/barrel/ammo.
Here is a hammer forged Vanguard bore and a button swaged Savage bore, both shoot just fine, but one is pretty ugly.

 

[huntingfamily]

guntech : Hammer forging starts out cold I believe but the process heats the steel up...

All this discussion however is pointless, the factories are making rifles as cheaply as they can so they can sell them and make money.

The process of how a factory barrel is made matters not at all to me...


Dennis - Then WHY do you involve yourself if thats your view ? RJ

Didn't you ask for opinions? I guess I don't get the point either to be honest. It's likely the same barrel as a tikka and some people think they're the cats azz...

 

[guntech]

Hammer forging makes for a smooth barrel surface, Savage, Remington, Mossberg, Browning still use button/cut rifle barrels, Howa, Sako, Zastava and many others use hammer forged.

NO... Remington has been hammer forging barrels for ever ...

The Browning X-Bolt, AB3, T-Bolt and Browning .22 caliber pistols and .22 rifles are button-rifled.

The Browning BAR features a hammer forged barrel

I don't know about the others...

 

[Hitzy]

NO... Remington has been hammer forging barrels for ever ...

The Browning X-Bolt, AB3, T-Bolt and Browning .22 caliber pistols and .22 rifles are button-rifled.

The Browning BAR features a hammer forged barrel

I don't know about the others...

Damn, wasn't aware of that...the bores on my 700's look pretty much like the Savage I posted above. They shoot fine, but I never would have thought they were hammer forged by looking at them with the bore scope.