Sako vs CZ

west250 said:
Buying a rifle (or a dirt bike, quad etc.), is a bit of a gamble in that regard: You have to purchase the item before really trying it. That means you have to possibly try someone else's before purchasing, buy used (so you don't take as much of a hit), or just do your homework as best you can and take the leap.

I took the leap on a model 85 hunter a few years back. Wasn't as impressed with it as I was with the TC Icon that was purchased the year before (wasn't as accurate off the bat), but the rifle grew on me and is now my go to deer gun. That's not to say that Sako is the be all to end all - they're nice rifles, but there's several manufacturers that meet or exceed them in quality and accuracy.

Edit: I do like what the previous poster said about buying a used one from Tradex or off of here, there are some bargains out there if you're adept at searching...
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scaleguy said:
Yea, the sako that is in stock here is just beautiful... understated, but exceptional. I have yet to find a store that will allow you to dry fire a gun. Even getting them to remove the trigger lock is hard. This one has been on the shelf for a year and a half or something like that, so maybe they will be more motivated to move it, or even knock a few hundred off it... I would have a hard time dropping two grand without pulling the trigger. What are the chances that the trigger on that could be any better than my winchester model 70? To me that thing is near perfect. If the sako wasnt as good, after dropping that kind of dough i would be one very unhappy (and relatively ugly) guy.
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Obviously you can't shoot before buying, but if you're in a brick and mortar store and they won't let you try the trigger on a $1600+ rifle that you're seriously considering, well I'd leave and look elsewhere. Dry firing a Sako isn't going to hurt it any, and I can't see a store losing a sale over that. I always ask the clerk before dry firing a store's rifle, but seldom have I been told no.
 
scaleguy said:
Does anyone with a sako 85 with open sights have comments on the lack of elevation adjustment?

I cant even figure out what model this thing is. They said it has been on the shelf for about a year and a half, it has a schnable forend, and the red recoil pad with a standard (non bavarian) stock. I cant see anything quite like it on sako's site. Any clues as to what it is? Did they make the classic with a schnable at some point?
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Actually you can adjust the elevation. It is done using the front sight and is detailed in the Sako manual.
 
-Savage- said:
I have both. I like both.
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Thank you Savage. I appreciate your honest reply and opinion.

It is great to find a knowledgeable person like yourself who can speak to the issue rather than mask their lack of knowledge by being rude.

I was looking at a new Hunter in 338 Win Mag. My LGS is asking $2100 for a new one.

Having read all of the so called "gun reviews" that spend more ink quoting the Sako product literature verbatim, I was wondering if anyone had had the experience of owing both, hunted with both, and what their opinion was of either model. Specifically the quality of the materials, workmanship and how well it carries in the field.
I think everyone would agree Sako rifles are accurate.
If you could add to this commentary I would appreciate it, I am sure others might be interested in your opinion or just PM me.
Thanks
 
I have two cz's .22 hb , I installed "yo dave" trigger kit, will shoot the eye out of a nat , also a 550fs .308. also very accurate. There are simple instruction on the net to adjust the triggers. I had a Sako av /06 very accurate and well made, which I traded because I didn't care for the stock. I have just acquired a Sako 85 but have not yet shoot, but don't doubt it will be accurate. Sako and CZ are both great rifles. In my opinion the best bang for the buck is CZ.
 
-Savage- said:
I have both. I like both.
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Curious, I have an A III in .270 Win, how much difference is there between them.



Oh, did a quick trip to Long Beach and on the way through Port, I stopped in at Gone Fishing and picked up a sling and set of swivels for my Zastava. And, just for the h**l of it, ;)I also picked up an Impact Seal Reactive Ground Bouncing Target.
 
I built a custom on a CZ550 action. Love it. Mag holds down 5, 3 position safety, CRF and a fabulous set trigger. It was easy to adjust. Unset it is bang on 4#, no creep at all. When set it breaks right around 1/2#. I eventually will build another rifle, and will use the CZ550 again. Bought my bare action from Clay at Prophet River. He is great to deal with.
 
The CZ is better value for the money, as it will shoot as good as the Sako. pick the one that points better as the LOP and stocks are not identical. It appears you are value shopping. They are so close in performance that a target would not know the difference, so it comes down to feel fit and finish and looks. You pay for all the nice things.


The best analogy I can think of is the following, Take a new corvette, and just have primer on it, and a few dings and dent, and one that is all shiney. They will perform the same, its just one is nicer to be seen with and in than the other. That is how sako's and CZ's are. Sako's are painted, CZ's are not, for function its not a big deal. I have owned many of both. For about $2500 you can buy an Anschutz 1780 with iron sights that will outshoot them both.
 
dizzy said:
For about $2500 you can buy an Anschutz 1780 with iron sights that will outshoot them both.
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Could you please elaborate on that?

Anschutz is not know for accuracy of centerfire rifles. Quick look around the internet shows in fact inferior accuracy (1.5 - 2 MOA at best):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViWdIZqdF40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt9BYMTVvgc

At the same time Sako is guaranteed to shoot 5 shots in 1 MOA. And has more than enough evidence to support that. In order to outshoot Sako you need 0.5 MOA production rifle like Cooper, not Anschutz.

Did you confuse the make/model or you have first hand outstanding experience with Anschutz 1780?
 
My CZ 527 has a warranty of two years on the wood and three years on the rest. I was quite suprised to read that card in the rifle box. I like them. I have a third CZ on the way.
 
oldfart said:
I wouldn't argue, my point was, the CZ for the price, is better value. Cz is half the price and still an excellent rifle.
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any brand of gun that is cheaper can be said to be of better "value" provided it is operational. If cheaper price is your main concern with when purchasing a rifle, high quality arms are not going to be in your safe is all I am saying.

Different people "value" different things in a rifle, many let cost decide over any other factor.
 
owlowl, any Annie, I've owned has been a sub MOA rifle, both 1770, 1780 included, back to the topic for the OP. the CZ is good value for the money, in fact among some of the best value for the money. For me its worth spending more for the Sako but its all personal preference and little to do with performance over the CZ.
 
I have been told that CZ and BRNO ZKK are essentially the same. If so, in my experience, they are as accurate as Sako's out of the box. ZKK's came with test targets that were impressive and easily duplicated. Sako's had a better finish. Both maintain good resale value amongst those that are familiar with them and know what they can do. Neither company has been in the business of building inaccurate or undependable rifles!
As for Anschutz ... well if you havent shot one you might have some trouble appreciating what they are capable when loaded and handled properly. In small bore they own the podium pretty much and my experience with a .222 Rem single shot Anschutz has been satisfying. Again - this is another company that seems to know what it takes to build a good rifle.
 
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