Sale on Hirtenberger 7.62x51 (308 Win) Surplus ammo, Early 80's Boxer Primed!!!

guys, keep in mind that although the case is copper, the actual projectile has a steel jacket with a copper "finish" on top (hence "bi-metal").
A magnet will stick to this, making it a "no-go" at many ranges and hard on your barrels if that sort of thing is important to you.
 
Odd Shot said:
guys, keep in mind that although the case is copper, the actual projectile has a steel jacket with a copper "finish" on top (hence "bi-metal").
A magnet will stick to this, making it a "no-go" at many ranges and hard on your barrels if that sort of thing is important to you.
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it's no harder on your barrel than regular old milsurp 7.62x39,,,same idea with the bullet,all it is is a steel core within a bit of lead,regular copper jacket,,no harder on your barrel than regular hunting rounds.
 
Wiskey1 said:
it's no harder on your barrel than regular old milsurp 7.62x39,,,same idea with the bullet,all it is is a steel core within a bit of lead,regular copper jacket,,no harder on your barrel than regular hunting rounds.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my understanding that these rounds are lead core, steel jacket, with a thin (micrometers thin) copper coating (hence the term "bi-metal"), primarily for corrosion resistance of the steel jacket. Very different from commercial hunting rounds which are fully copper jacket on lead core which is much softer.

There was a very informative article in one of the gun mags that compared standard copper jacket bullets with bi-metal jacket bullets in AR-15 rifles and found the bi-metal jackets wore the bore out significantly faster.

Not a concern for me. All I shoot through my Norinco M305 is bi-metal jacket bullets (cheap surplus), but people with fancy precision barrels may be concerned. Certain ranges may not allow them either.
 
Is this stuff good?

Well guess what. Read Caramel's post again (post#14). He knows. He shouts it out of fine guns.

Me, I just keep feeding it to 2 semi-autos (FNH's FNAR and ATRS's Modern Hunter) and they keep eating it with great satisfaction. I get the occasional sub MOA group. Simply the very best 7.62/308 plinking ammo available in Canada. As a bonus, it's serious quality brass for those who reload.

I bought 25 cases when they first came out (Montreal area group purchase) and I just kept a few for me. I shot 2 cases of it already and regret not keeping more. I might (should) jump on this deal.


At that price, I would not even bother with group purchase.

... unless Tradex gives a sweeter deal for 10 cases or more... (hint hint, nudge nudge)
 
Lumberjack_Kerouac said:
Could anyone provide any dope on how well Hirt ammo works in bolt action rifles? Having trouble locating anything of use with the search function.
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I was interested in this ammunition, but wisely I decided to try a couple boxes first before buying in bulk. I bought some 1980 boxer primed hurtin' burger from a local gun shop. I could not recommend it. 3 shot group sizes off a bench with front and rear bags were atrocious at 5" to 7" at 100m!!! :( I shot it through a M14S (M305) and a Savage Axis. For reference, the M14S typically shoots 2" to 3" with Norinco bulk steel case 308 147gr, 1.5" with Federal Power Shok 150gr. The Axis can print sub 1" to 1.5" with Power Shok 150gr.
 
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