Sale to the public of surplus Canadian Forces Browning pistols will be considered

Firearms Act - Public Agent Firearms Regulation:

Sale of Firearms:
12.1 (1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), a public service agency may only sell, barter, give, lend or rent a firearm to another public service agency.

Disposal of Firearms:
15 (1) Before a public service agency disposes of a firearm, the agency shall offer the firearm to the chief firearms officer of the province in which the firearm is stored or to the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, for destruction or for any scientific, research or educational purpose, or for preservation as a historical firearm.

(2) If the offer referred to in subsection (1) is refused, the public service agency may only dispose of the firearm by having it destroyed.

What is a Public Agency?
A "public service agency" means a police force, police academy or a department or agency of a federal, provincial or municipal government. This can include any agency that possesses firearms: Used for control of or protection from wildlife.

The Canadian Forces is a Government Agency under the Department of National Defence.

And there it is... just because somebody in Public Affairs released a press release saying it might happen, doesn't mean they actually looked into the legalities of whether or not it could happen.
 
There's no way. Remember when we almost had police surplus semi auto MP7s? It will never happen. Some might go to 'approved' museums.

These pistols are junk anyways. They were all the rage in the '40s, however.
 
DT741 said:
There is a bunch of BNIB stored in Montreal's war reserve supply along with other stuff like M109s
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Must be true....
A fellow I worked with 2 years ago was in the Canadian National Guard, or whatever you call the part time thing. He told me that his pistol was an old one that had a functioning problem, and he was given a new, unfired, in the wrap, with factory grease BHP.
 
fenceline said:
Firearms Act - Public Agent Firearms Regulation:

Sale of Firearms:
12.1 (1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), a public service agency may only sell, barter, give, lend or rent a firearm to another public service agency.

Disposal of Firearms:
15 (1) Before a public service agency disposes of a firearm, the agency shall offer the firearm to the chief firearms officer of the province in which the firearm is stored or to the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, for destruction or for any scientific, research or educational purpose, or for preservation as a historical firearm.

(2) If the offer referred to in subsection (1) is refused, the public service agency may only dispose of the firearm by having it destroyed.

What is a Public Agency?
A "public service agency" means a police force, police academy or a department or agency of a federal, provincial or municipal government. This can include any agency that possesses firearms: Used for control of or protection from wildlife.

The Canadian Forces is a Government Agency under the Department of National Defence.

And there it is... just because somebody in Public Affairs released a press release saying it might happen, doesn't mean they actually looked into the legalities of whether or not it could happen.
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They cant by law, but that is the wrong law:

Canadian Forces

(2) Notwithstanding subsection (1), this Act does not apply in respect of the Canadian Forces.
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http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/page-2.html#docCont

This is the requirements for controlled goods, which firearms are:

Departments must ensure that their controlled goods are not knowingly transferred[3] to or examined by any person who is not excluded, or registered, or exempt from registration.
When disposing of their surplus military and other controlled goods, if they cannot be transferred to a person who is excluded, registered, or exempt from registration, departments must ensure that they are demilitarized and that their control status, if in doubt, is verified with the Export Control Division of Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada before they are disposed of.
When using the disposal services of Public Works and Government Services Canada or those of its contractors, departments must ensure that controlled goods are clearly identified as such when they are declared surplus.
Departments must keep and maintain records that contain:
a description of any controlled goods in their custody, the date of their receipt, and identification of the person from whom they were transferred;
a description of any controlled goods transferred by the department, the date of their transfer, and the identity and address of the person to whom they were transferred; and
a description of the manner and date of disposition[4] of the controlled goods.
Departments must establish and implement a security[5] plan for each place of business in Canada where controlled goods are kept. This security plan must set out in writing:
the procedures used to control the examination, possession and transfer of controlled goods;
the procedures for reporting and investigating security breaches in relation to controlled goods;
the description of the responsibilities of the department's security organization and the identity of the individuals who are responsible for the security of controlled goods; and
the contents of security briefings and training programs given to employees and to registered or exempt contracted workers, as the case may be.
Departments must provide training programs in respect of the secure handling of controlled goods for their employees and for exempt visitors who are authorized to possess or examine those goods.
Departments must advise the Controlled Goods Directorate in Public Works and Government Services Canada, without delay, of any security breaches in relation to controlled goods.
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https://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?id=12063

And to further be a bonner killer here is the definition of de militarization:

Demilitarization (Démilitarisation)
Action that renders an item unusable for its intended military or strategic purpose and that is irreversible.
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https://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?id=12063

Now can they change the law?, yes. Is it likely? no

Shawn
 
DT741 said:
There is a bunch of BNIB stored in Montreal's war reserve supply along with other stuff like M109s
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M109's were cut up for scrap. There is one in Gagetown at the arty school and a turret in Mount Forest, into. Yes many bhp have cracked slides, back plates and barrels. They get replaced with new ones. We still have plenty of new pistols in storage. I've seen them.
 
I would buy one of the new ones out of war stock. I degreased and shot one that was issued from storage in 2004. The last one I shot would not be worth buying. The PAF O doesn't set demil policy.
 
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